Shemo,

Google “Jehovah’s Witnesses +child abuse” or “Silentlambs” and you will find many cases similar to this one. Please make it an effort to listen to what is presented, the molested victims deserve so much respect. Somehow I think if it was a catholic priest spoken about here you would be happy to take the video for real. Am I right about this?

I would really like to believe this is true but the voice is totally out of sync with the video . I have to know for sure if this is true.
thank you

I don’t think you will reach the person who made the video here. You may also have noticed that his trust and reliance in the JW Org was greatly disappointed as in the case of many others. True the quality of this video is not perfect, actually most videos on the www I have seen have this quality.
But there are hundreds of JW child abuse victims who are going public. I personally believe my two sisters (also victims) without high quality videos. But if you want more and better quality videos please see http://www.silentlambs.org/.

Dear Pam, I whish your own mother would have listened to you or not blamed you, it’s so sad, so unfair and they don’t want to realise it. I hope you and your sister and still in good relations and freed from all of this you have been put through. Thank you for reminding us to focus on the positive things in life. Sincerely, Tony

Hi and Thanks Fri, you are right to the point and scored the issue again, that’s more important then our minor differences. Also English is not my mother tongue, so some of my expressions or my understanding of other expressions may be limited. I do my best.
There is so much we agree on and so very much I appreciate about your handling of your eldership when challenging your continence with good verses WT policy. Fir, to me insulting is not good and not constructive in helping the poster or readers (JW) to accept or question WT reality. Again my approach is different to yours; I don’t believe my thinking is superior in any way.
So thanks for considering and replying to my thoughts, I look forward to working together with you and I am happy about your open and direct way.

Warm regards,
Tony

Hi Fir, I have no intentions of going fishing with you. Some of the comments posted on that thread were aimed to help JWs. Otherwise you have my full support about the WTS. My approach is different to yours, I think it is best to work together, since we have both lost years to the WTS. I mean what I say.

Best regards,

Tony

No problemo.
Take care and God bless,
James

fri,
let me know what you think about this http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/113151/1.ashx

Joana,

I was born and raised a JW, my father was an elder and my sisters and I were in the full-time service for many years.
I didn’t say elder are gods neither are they political. Elders are leaders, instructors and judges of the congregation. Shepherds of the sheep -who presiding over the congregation. There are also the COs, Dos, Branch Overseers who are in turn under the command of the ‘Governing Body’ (not a biblical term). The Governing Body governs over the congregations of JWs. I think you need to get to know the JWs organisation structure!

Tony

The WTS is eager to destroy any evidence, what evidence do you have that this video is a lie. Where is your evidence? My families experience and life is sad evidence that this video is true. The ministerial servant who molested my sisters remained an appointed servant in his congregation until his death.
There are many things you accept from the WTS without evidence and that is the problem. Anything the WTS tells you about a catholic priest you take for true without evidence and are happy to scandalise it. The evidence of this scandal (Catholics & JW) is much the same, with the significant difference -the Catholic Church publicly apologized to the victims and made changes in standing policies. The WTS continues covering up!

Thank you James!

Lies just like the rest?
It’s great when we have JW’s come in and post absolute asinine comments like that quote above. Keeping in the spirit of their writing, here is a question: How does it feel to be right all the time?
Give me a break! Typical JW mentality, let’s just believe that pedophilia is not happening, it’s all okay in the WTS’ created dreamland.
Well listen “follower of the cult”, guess what, it’s not all smelling of roses, you need to come out of the closet. You know, it’s time to wake up?

Dear fri,

This was only a thought I felt I had to bring across to you. Everything else you say I whole heartedly agree with you. What Joan says and is made to be convinced of is actually painfully wrong and it hurts me to read it, because I know what happened to my sisters. But there is nothing else I expect from a JW since I have lived through the manipulation.

Kind regards,

Tony

To fri,

You make many good points on your post to Joan. With your past experience as a JW elder you have expertise to alert and help others to understand about the mind control mechanisms used by the WTS. I very much appreciate the effort you put into reasoning with WT defenders. I also think you were courageous in standing up for what is right and not going along with the other elders in your congregation in covering up for a child molester. I thank you for not violating your sense of justice.

But I think much of your argumentation is lost by you insulting Joan, calling her ‘stupid’. Joan is not stupid; she is defending what she believes to be ‘the truth’. And let’s be honest, we reasoned the same way when we were JWs. Had a stranger told me about child molester cover-ups I would not have believed it either. You had written proof and a confession, but to most JWs something so dreadful does not fit into the clean and pure worship they believe to follow.
If someone insults me in his introduction of reasoning I would not consider his arguments as genuine and true.
By this unnecessary insulting you are serving and strengthening the WTS purpose of not taking ex-member accusations for honest and true. What does it help to call someone stupid? In this context it only helps the WTS.

I hope you understand why I am concerned about this.

Tony

I was born and raised a JW, was a pioneer and Ministerial Servant. Two of by sisters were abused. One told the elders, had the elders informed the family they would have had the second witness, but my sister was told not to tell anyone not even her family.

I have little sympathy for the Catholic Church, but AT LEAST they acknowledged what was happening by these priests and made a public apology. The WT Organization will NOT EVEN acknowledge it is happening among their ranks, much less apologize!

What arrogance!

Yes of course we cannot see the truth because Satan has blinded us all. Only the special ones, the JW’s know it all.
Let’s discuss facts for a moment:
This religion that I gave at least 15 years to apparently speaks the truth, hmmm….let’s see, how about answer these questions:
1. Name one prophecy that the Watchtower Society said that has come true? Remember this is the truth right? Your faith has published in their own literature dates, prophecies & future events none of which have come true.
2. Association with the UN as a NGO partner. What were they thinking here?
3. Absolutely no basis or proper foundation for it’s major doctrine regarding 1914. They set the date based on when Jerusalem’s temple was destroyed, however it is a date the WTS picked with not one historian or scholar in agreement to it. Archaeologists do not agree either. So, how about explain this so-called ‘truth’? I suppose someone at the WTS was actually there to witness the temple destruction?
4. Please take a moment and read about real people’s stories and the pain & suffering they incurred at the hands of JW pedophiles and the WTS’ constant cover up at http://www.silentlambs.com. Then ask yourself if it wasn’t so secret, would you be so inclined to deny it’s existance? Put yourself in their (victims) shoes and try to deny it.
5. How do you explain the lackluster performance of the proselytizing door to door work as evidenced by the actual data showing little to no increase the last several years?
6. Have you ever read the biographical story of Charles Russell the JW founder? Have you ever seen his grave site, even in pictures? Why was the WTS caught up with pyramids & occult related paraphernalia?
7. How do you personally feel or think about the WTS propensity for constant flip flopping on a lot of their doctrine?
8. Why does the faith still celebrate the Passover/Memorial if the WTS teaches that Jesus did come back invisibly after 1914? Do you also know the history behind that doctrine?

There are many more questions, however you can think about those to start. When you’re done ask yourself one last question:
Just who is it that’s blind?

Thank you,
James NON-JW

All I can say is ignorance is bliss correct?

Let me just say that I absolutely know what DFing means. I was involved in the cult for the better part of 15 years and saw a lot of moronic behavior. Man, am I so glad that I finally came to my senses.

Here again everyone we have another uninformed JW. They belittle the victim for the sake of some completely insane reasoning like to protection of their God the WTS.
This happened once? Once is too many times, if you care enough about children, however are you ever naive & gullible. Perhaps you should find out in the ‘real world’ how many of these JW cases have been reported. I wonder how many haven’t? The Society won’t even be honest enough to tell you, however former Bethel members and those fighting for their rights in the courts will show you factual info to support the claims of hundreds to thousands, that’s right thousands. How would you feel if it happened to a family member or your child only to have people like you trying to justify it by sweeping it under the carpet?

Disfellowshipped? What good is that going to do? Oh, sorry I forgot. For those who don’t know, the JW group is self-centered and only cares for it’s members, so ‘tossing’ the member to the so-called ‘outside world’ will keep the predator from seeking their own. Yes I know folks it is very shallow-minded to not realize that this predator is not only going to re-offend, what keeps him from still molesting another JW anyway? To even believe for one second that the WTS or any of it’s rank & file is capable of dealing with this issue or understanding it is laughable at best. ALL pedophiles need to locked and up and dealt with by people & organizations who study & work to rehabilitate such people. We know this system of rehabilitation isn’t perfect, however what good does it do to have this person walking around? We certainly don’t want the WTS or any of it’s elders trying to fix these problems do we? Where is their training to deal with psychological issues?
You also have to wonder where the compassion is for other people when JW’s just want to remove the predator to save face and prevent damage to their image.
Well guess what Desiree, God & Christ wouldn’t give one second of their time to such an organization lacking in love and filled with self-importance & stupidity.
Oh and make sure you fill out your field service report (we know Christ would approve of that too) for your time posting comments here.

Everyone is entitled to their opinon, however In the future please do some research before posting comments.

Thank you.

Do you even know what being disfellowshiped is? I doubt that. Until you do know what it means then you can reply.
Also the person does deserve to go to jail.

This only happened once what about all of those priests on the news all the time.
This man probably wasn’t right in the mind and probably should have been disfellowshiped.The only reason he wasn’t was because the elders didn’t know.
I am not sticking up for the molester, but remember this no one is perfect.

Any idea if there are pedophiles in your KH? If you were actually to find out that there was (as if the elders would tell you anyway), what would you do about it?
Just post another comment paying lip service or actually make a stand for what’s really right, even if the KH and WTS frown on it? What if they look to keep it quiet and try to silence you? Do you play the typical JW turtle manoeuver and let it go at the expense of more children being molested? What good does it do to DF the person if they still have the opportunity to re-offend? Do you justify your actions and still find some way to look yourself in the mirror everyday like everything is still okay?
Give me a break, the WTS will pay dearly for this, yes a pedophile is disgusting and so are those protecting them!

This is in reply to comment:
joana (Comment ID: 13643)
Joana, unfortunately YOU are the joke here, posting such lunatic comments like the one above and others.
Disfellowshipped?, how laughable. Try again, the predator should be in jail! Wake up and stop protecting the image of a corporate giant that at the end of the day won’t do a single thing to help you should you need it.
YOU are the blind one Sparky, perhaps all the facts are just too hard for you to assimilate? Try taking your head out from the WTS rear end and think for yourself just once.
I just love these JW’s posting comments without studying any facts, sure makes them look pretty darn stupid, doesn’t it?

Thank you.

A pedophile is a disgusting person. It is a sign of the times. A normal person would never do something like this. Obviously it is another tactic used by Satan to make the world suffer. Read Job.

You are the ignorant and misled. The Bible says that Satan would blind the majority so that they could not see the truth.

Take off your blindfold, Chip.

The powerful position of the elders is also a lie. They can be disfellowshipped like anyone else. They are only humans. They are not gods and their positions are not political and they have no more power than any other member of the organisation. You people simply do not know the JW.

Don’t believe a word you’re saying. If your molestor was a JW, Jehova certainly took the necessary steps to separate him from the congregation. I feel sure that he was disfellowshipped as soon as his evil deed was discovered. If he told you to keep quiet in order to protect Jehovah, that was only a tactic he used to keep you quiet. Those instructions did not come from Jehovah. There are elders and even annointed ones who have had to leave the organisation because they became trapped in worldly weaknesses. A sincere Witness would never commit such an evil deed.

Don’t believe a word of this. I know the JW intimately. They are extremely protective of their young. As soon as a person who does not follow the divine laws given by the God, who knows what is best for us, is discovered, immediate action is taken to correct his actions. If he does not accept this correction, he is disfellowshipped in order for the person to realise what he has done and in order to protect the congregation. The person who wrote this information is either Catholic or an apostate trying to discredit the JW, as predicted in the Bible.

Download here:
http://www.reexamine.info/90s/flock_book_with_notes_small.pdf ( 9 MB)
http://www.reexamine.info/90s/flock_book_with_notes_large.pdf (53 MB)

New Elder Book available for freedownload “Pay Attention to Yourselves and to the Flock”! (PDF or HTML)
It has handwritten notes of a presiding overseer with instructions from the WTS to destroy child molester files or records if the molester is appointed as elder, on page 74.

I can tell you from personal experience as a molested child from a JW family that when your parents not only don’t protect you, they tell you to keep quiet for the sake of Jehovah’s name and you feel abandoned by God himself. The more I tried to find answers, the worse it got. I was repeatedly told ‘the wicked will not understand’. As a JW child I grew up thinking I was wicked because I could not understand and my only hope was that there was NOT an eternal hell because God apparently hated me, why? who can question God…. What can local authorities do for you when God himself hates you? I stayed silent, even into adulthood, accepting my fate for 40+ years, until I came to know the Love of my Lord and my God, which was only a few years ago.
My thoughts and prayers are with every victim of child abuse, especially those of this organization who feel abandoned by God, He does not approve of keeping things hidden in the dark, ANY MAN or ORGANIZATION who tells you He does is a liar. ANY MAN or ORGANIZATION who uses His name in vain does is not of God. There is no greater love than the one who laid down His life for you. Lean not on your own understanding, trust in HIM, not in any MAN or ORGANIZATION.
After all, how do any of you know one of these ’select few’ (the numbers have been growing since I was a child) that molested me are not molesting your own children? You too, will keep silent so not to bring reproach on the name of Jehovah. But this is what Jesus says: “It were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones.”
FREEDOM IN CHRIST, Tina

To Melany,

after a long time when he could finally speak to the elders he was silenced by the threat of disfellowshiping.
I think it is very sad that most of the abused don’t speak up and stand up for their rights. If they did, more could be protected. There are victims that continue all there lives as JW not wanting (no, not being able) to tell anyone.

But please consider the embracing and paralyzing effect of rape, the age of the victim at that time, the JW environment, the powerful position of elders, the insecurity through disbelief and shame when thinking of doing something about ‘it’. The WT ‘gods channel of communication’ telling them they may have just misunderstood and falsely imagined everything.
The young child sees its abuser being loved by its family and congregation, going in field service and giving talks. In this case right after the rape! Can you imagine what this can do to you?

Molesters choose their prey very carefully and don’t go for confident youngsters. And the terrible effect it has on the victim is very, very complex needing professional attention.

Melany, tell me what do you think he should have done?

Tony

Thanks for posting, you always do a good job of it.–Danny Haszard

All I can say is sue this person and especially the Watchtower Society royally. Al least they start to wake up when it involves them giving up their wealth. What a joke! This religion is so repulsive, you know what though?
Just give it a little more time and perhaps the power of the Internet will bring a lot or all of it down. Let’s flush this false religion down the toilet!

Oh by the way, any JW’s thinking of replying to my message to judge me or so-called correct me, don’t bother as if you defend pedophiles, then you are as guilty as one of them. This is totally disgusting, God & Christ will sooner or later destroy such vulgar behavior.
To defend such an organization really means one of two things, you are either extremely naive & ignorant or easily misled.

Thank you,
James

MANY THANKS to the victim for coming forward and to share this terrible and humiliating experience with us. It surly takes a lot to do this. It can help other victims, in that they know they are not alone and not the guilty.

And once more the molester is the one who is loved and protected, more then that the abuser received ‘privileges in the service of Jehovah’ as special pioneer (120 hour -preaching and teaching the WT kingdom message at peoples doors and in their homes- per month) and was even appointed congregation presiding overseer!

Again there are those who will favour not to believe the victim and call him an apostate. This is very sad, as paedophiles continue to abuse children and youths among JW’s knowing their ‘fellows’ will support and care for them.

The WTS will not make a change in its policies, because it’s working satisfactorily for its interests. Only strong media presentations and lawmakers can make a change to protect the victims by using their means to move the WTS to adjust its inhuman policies. The more the public is educated and alerted about this, the better it will be for the wounded prey.

I thank all organizations supporting abused victims.

Strength and courage to all suffering this dreadful hurt.

Tony