Comments on: Jehovah's Witnesses hit with abuse suits -Alleged victims were molested as children, they say http://www.watchtowerinformationservice.org/sexual-child-abuse/jehovahs-witnesses-hit-with-abuse-suits-alleged-victims-were-molested-as-children-they-say/ Just another WordPress weblog Sat, 31 Jul 2010 12:11:42 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.1 hourly 1 By: Linda Wattley http://www.watchtowerinformationservice.org/sexual-child-abuse/jehovahs-witnesses-hit-with-abuse-suits-alleged-victims-were-molested-as-children-they-say/comment-page-1/#comment-7710 Linda Wattley Mon, 13 Jul 2009 00:54:18 +0000 http://www.watchtowerinformationservice.org/?p=84#comment-7710 What profit a man to gain the world and to lose his soul? Come on everybody, enough already it is time to face reality. Michael Jackson was a human being with special gifts and talents. What he did with them was his choice. He chose to share his life with a world that could only promise money and worship. So what was the price? Obviously, it was his life. My question is was it worth it? The world was entertained by a genius that maxed out his potential to create unique and one-time displays of songs and dance steps. We heard and watched MJ work magic right before our eyes for years. Not only did he entertain us with his gifts and talents but he also gave us a show of his troubled soul. Michael Jackson physically transformed his body image from a African American man into a European-looking white man. Why such a huge transformation? Was it to increase acceptance in a diversity world of color where the lighter your flesh the more your acceptance? Who knows? What we do know is he was no longer that little boy who grew up in an African American family from Indiana. He was a new creature. Face it, he was ENTERTAINMENT MATERIAL with a huge price. With all this being said, I find it disgusting that the media continues to exalt this man and justify his choices to choose less than the best for himself. Until we accept, MJ was a human being, we will never have peace. He like many parents in the world had the responsibility first of all to be a good parent to his children then please self and the world. I am a firm believer if parents would based their choices and decisions on their love and responsibilities to their children, they will head towards best in life for everyone including themselves. Michael could not do that only because he never came out of the traumas of childhood victimization. One of the major behavior patterns of victimization is becoming your own victimizer. Before he became a parent, he needed to be healed from his own demons. Now, we have three innocent children who are victims continuing the victimizing cycle. Eventually, each one of his children will face these same demons because once the world knows your vulnerability, it will come for you as it came for Michael Jackson.....to love him to death. No, entertaining the world was not worth the price paid. Please stop the music......let your hope of attention and riches go that some normalcy can persevere enough already. What profit a man to gain the world and to lose his soul?
Come on everybody, enough already it is time to face reality. Michael Jackson was a human being with special gifts and talents. What he did with them was his choice. He chose to share his life with a world that could only promise money and worship.

So what was the price? Obviously, it was his life. My question is was it worth it? The world was entertained by a genius that maxed out his potential to create unique and one-time displays of songs and dance steps. We heard and watched MJ work magic right before our eyes for years. Not only did he entertain us with his gifts and talents but he also gave us a show of his troubled soul.

Michael Jackson physically transformed his body image from a African American man into a European-looking white man. Why such a huge transformation? Was it to increase acceptance in a diversity world of color where the lighter your flesh the more your acceptance? Who knows? What we do know is he was no longer that little boy who grew up in an African American family from Indiana. He was a new creature. Face it, he was ENTERTAINMENT MATERIAL with a huge price.

With all this being said, I find it disgusting that the media continues to exalt this man and justify his choices to choose less than the best for himself. Until we accept, MJ was a human being, we will never have peace. He like many parents in the world had the responsibility first of all to be a good parent to his children then please self and the world. I am a firm believer if parents would based their choices and decisions on their love and responsibilities to their children, they will head towards best in life for everyone including themselves.

Michael could not do that only because he never came out of the traumas of childhood victimization. One of the major behavior patterns of victimization is becoming your own victimizer. Before he became a parent, he needed to be healed from his own demons. Now, we have three innocent children who are victims continuing the victimizing cycle. Eventually, each one of his children will face these same demons because once the world knows your vulnerability, it will come for you as it came for Michael Jackson…..to love him to death.

No, entertaining the world was not worth the price paid. Please stop the music……let your hope of attention and riches go that some normalcy can persevere enough already.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.watchtowerinformationservice.org/sexual-child-abuse/jehovahs-witnesses-hit-with-abuse-suits-alleged-victims-were-molested-as-children-they-say/comment-page-1/#comment-1027 Anonymous Sun, 18 Mar 2007 20:46:46 +0000 http://www.watchtowerinformationservice.org/?p=84#comment-1027 Please go back to school and get an edu-muh-cation Please go back to school and get an edu-muh-cation

]]> By: marcy http://www.watchtowerinformationservice.org/sexual-child-abuse/jehovahs-witnesses-hit-with-abuse-suits-alleged-victims-were-molested-as-children-they-say/comment-page-1/#comment-1026 marcy Sat, 05 Aug 2006 17:23:19 +0000 http://www.watchtowerinformationservice.org/?p=84#comment-1026 do some re-search on the jw's, from the begining and until now and you will find alot of things that are not true. alot of prophecies that never were fulfilled, they make changes all the time in regards to rules and regulations. my bible says, the Lord is the same yesterday and today and forever. Jeus said, I AM THE WAY THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE, NO MAN COMETH UNTO THE FATHER EXCEPT THROUGH HIM. he also said, that if you dont KNOW him(Jesus) then you dont know the Father at all. Jesus came in the diety, as man and as God. if you believe in God then you believe in miracles. and Jesus is the TRUE miracle of God. his blood forgives and has power over satan, the bible says, that the demons tremble at the name of Jesus. Jesus holds ALL the power. Jesus was worshiped by man and by angels, The bible says that EVERY knee shall bow and EVERY tongue will confess, that Jesus is LORD of ALL! the bible says that there is NO other NAME under heaven and earth that man can be saved and inherit eternal life. he gives us the Holy Spirit, it is for EVERYONE! we must be born again, in order to inherit eternal life, and that is through Christ. born of the spirit. NO organization can save you or give you eternal life. the bible says, not by WORKS, lest any man should boast, he should ONLY boast of what Christ has done for him. he went to the cross and the law was put to death, our sins were nailed to the cross, he paid a big price for us. the law, meaning works cannot save us. i will pray that you will find your love and assurance for eternal life through Christ. he is the ONLY answer. God bless! do some re-search on the jw’s, from the begining and until now and you will find alot of things that are not true.
alot of prophecies that never were fulfilled, they make changes all the time in regards to rules and regulations.
my bible says, the Lord is the same yesterday and today and forever.
Jeus said, I AM THE WAY THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE, NO MAN COMETH UNTO THE FATHER EXCEPT THROUGH HIM.
he also said, that if you dont KNOW him(Jesus) then you dont know the Father at all.
Jesus came in the diety, as man and as God.
if you believe in God then you believe in miracles.
and Jesus is the TRUE miracle of God.
his blood forgives and has power over satan, the bible says, that the demons tremble at the name of Jesus.
Jesus holds ALL the power.
Jesus was worshiped by man and by angels,
The bible says that EVERY knee shall bow and EVERY tongue will confess, that Jesus is LORD of ALL!
the bible says that there is NO other NAME under heaven and earth that man can be saved and inherit eternal life.
he gives us the Holy Spirit, it is for EVERYONE!
we must be born again, in order to inherit eternal life, and that is through Christ.
born of the spirit.
NO organization can save you or give you eternal life.
the bible says, not by WORKS, lest any man should boast, he should ONLY boast of what Christ has done for him.
he went to the cross and the law was put to death, our sins were nailed to the cross, he paid a big price for us.
the law, meaning works cannot save us.
i will pray that you will find your love and assurance for eternal life through Christ.
he is the ONLY answer.
God bless!

]]> By: Nicole http://www.watchtowerinformationservice.org/sexual-child-abuse/jehovahs-witnesses-hit-with-abuse-suits-alleged-victims-were-molested-as-children-they-say/comment-page-1/#comment-1025 Nicole Sun, 18 Jun 2006 01:23:44 +0000 http://www.watchtowerinformationservice.org/?p=84#comment-1025 I was raised a JW. When I was 24 years old I read Bill Bowan's story in the newspaper over the sexual molestations in KH's. It shocked me to read such an article, but bless that man for coming forward! After that story, I read many books and did a lot of internet research. I have such relief that I am no longer associated with the JW's. My family and I attended many different congregations. At each congregation we found the same hurtful, malicious, backstabbing, judgemental misfits. The JW's are a psycho cult plain and simple. I was raised a JW. When I was 24 years old I read Bill Bowan’s story in the newspaper over the sexual molestations in KH’s. It shocked me to read such an article, but bless that man for coming forward! After that story, I read many books and did a lot of internet research. I have such relief that I am no longer associated with the JW’s.

My family and I attended many different congregations. At each congregation we found the same hurtful, malicious, backstabbing, judgemental misfits. The JW’s are a psycho cult plain and simple.

]]> By: Linda D. Wattley http://www.watchtowerinformationservice.org/sexual-child-abuse/jehovahs-witnesses-hit-with-abuse-suits-alleged-victims-were-molested-as-children-they-say/comment-page-1/#comment-1024 Linda D. Wattley Sun, 07 May 2006 04:11:28 +0000 http://www.watchtowerinformationservice.org/?p=84#comment-1024 This is a message to the world. If you want a safe world, our children must be safe. The problem begins within and it is solved within. It can be done. Please listen to the truth about molestation: Click here: http://www.lindawattley26.com/id37.html This is a message to the world. If you want a safe world, our children must be safe. The problem begins within and it is solved within. It can be done. Please listen to the truth about molestation: Click here: http://www.lindawattley26.com/id37.html

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.watchtowerinformationservice.org/sexual-child-abuse/jehovahs-witnesses-hit-with-abuse-suits-alleged-victims-were-molested-as-children-they-say/comment-page-1/#comment-1023 Anonymous Wed, 08 Mar 2006 22:34:45 +0000 http://www.watchtowerinformationservice.org/?p=84#comment-1023 I remember that the man came to the Kingdom hall and had a meeting with the Elders but still continued to attend the meetings. My mother informed me that the police were called but for some reason wasn't arrested. He got to attend each meeting and just stayed in the Study which had glass windows on the right side and was in plain view of the Public speaker and the room had an intercom for him to be able to hear. but it was like that until his death he came in late and left early. I remember that the man came to the Kingdom hall and had a meeting with the Elders but still continued to attend the meetings. My mother informed me that the police were called but for some reason wasn’t arrested. He got to attend each meeting and just stayed in the Study which had glass windows on the right side and was in plain view of the Public speaker and the room had an intercom for him to be able to hear. but it was like that until his death he came in late and left early.

]]> By: fri http://www.watchtowerinformationservice.org/sexual-child-abuse/jehovahs-witnesses-hit-with-abuse-suits-alleged-victims-were-molested-as-children-they-say/comment-page-1/#comment-1022 fri Wed, 08 Mar 2006 18:36:22 +0000 http://www.watchtowerinformationservice.org/?p=84#comment-1022 Your story and other boy is just one of many that unfortunately happened/happens within Jehovah’s witnesses organization. I too left due to a case of abuse that was brought to the attention of the elders and they kept covering it up for 5 years, than I decided that was enough. You story is not very clear though. You said that the man molested the boy after the game he than run away and called the police, and than you mentioned that nothing was brought to the attention of the local police. I seem to have missed something somewhere. Would you care to explain it a bit better? Count your blessings that you are out. Your story and other boy is just one of many that unfortunately happened/happens within Jehovah’s witnesses organization.
I too left due to a case of abuse that was brought to the attention of the elders and they kept covering it up for 5 years, than I decided that was enough.

You story is not very clear though. You said that the man molested the boy after the game he than run away and called the police, and than you mentioned that nothing was brought to the attention of the local police. I seem to have missed something somewhere. Would you care to explain it a bit better?

Count your blessings that you are out.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.watchtowerinformationservice.org/sexual-child-abuse/jehovahs-witnesses-hit-with-abuse-suits-alleged-victims-were-molested-as-children-they-say/comment-page-1/#comment-1021 Anonymous Wed, 08 Mar 2006 18:01:15 +0000 http://www.watchtowerinformationservice.org/?p=84#comment-1021 I was almost molested as a Child in the JW organization....now any one of you can call me a liar or not But when I was there there was a Man who wanted to take boys out to baseball games and would come over to thier house and try and be sweet to thier mothersand want to be a "father figure" to the younger boys who were missing thier father. I was one of those younger boys who had lost his father at an early age. On a night that a baseball game was going on I was supposed to go to a game with him and another young boy, but something came up and my mother kept me at home. After the game the man molested the other boy and that boy escaped and ran away from him and called the police at a nearby neighbors house. The man who was studing at the time, and was almost about to be baptized, was brought in by the witnesses and sat in the Study portion of our Kingdom Hall and talked to. I remember that nothing was ever brought to the attention of the Local police and he would come in late for the meetings and then leave a little early, but he could still be able to attend the meetings. After I saw this was happening I went to a few Elders and talked to them about it but they would never give me a straight answer and then would tell me that Jehovah will forgive him of his wrong doings. I then turned away from the Kindom Hall and the Witnesses. 3 months this continued and after those 3 months the man was found dead, he had wrote a letter to the brothers and took it to the kindom hall and shot himself in the head. Therefore JW holding Pedophiles is a true statement....I have lived it and still remember those accounts. Thank You for your time. I was almost molested as a Child in the JW organization….now any one of you can call me a liar or not But when I was there there was a Man who wanted to take boys out to baseball games and would come over to thier house and try and be sweet to thier mothersand want to be a “father figure” to the younger boys who were missing thier father. I was one of those younger boys who had lost his father at an early age. On a night that a baseball game was going on I was supposed to go to a game with him and another young boy, but something came up and my mother kept me at home. After the game the man molested the other boy and that boy escaped and ran away from him and called the police at a nearby neighbors house. The man who was studing at the time, and was almost about to be baptized, was brought in by the witnesses and sat in the Study portion of our Kingdom Hall and talked to. I remember that nothing was ever brought to the attention of the Local police and he would come in late for the meetings and then leave a little early, but he could still be able to attend the meetings. After I saw this was happening I went to a few Elders and talked to them about it but they would never give me a straight answer and then would tell me that Jehovah will forgive him of his wrong doings. I then turned away from the Kindom Hall and the Witnesses. 3 months this continued and after those 3 months the man was found dead, he had wrote a letter to the brothers and took it to the kindom hall and shot himself in the head. Therefore JW holding Pedophiles is a true statement….I have lived it and still remember those accounts.

Thank You for your time.

]]> By: Rexa http://www.watchtowerinformationservice.org/sexual-child-abuse/jehovahs-witnesses-hit-with-abuse-suits-alleged-victims-were-molested-as-children-they-say/comment-page-1/#comment-1020 Rexa Fri, 03 Mar 2006 15:35:18 +0000 http://www.watchtowerinformationservice.org/?p=84#comment-1020 Yes every religion has freaks and perverts. The problem is when we are told to go to the elders and not the police. The problem is when the elders tell you that you will be disfellowshipped if you go to the police. The problem is when the elders don't believe you and disfellowship you for committing fornication with the rapist. The problem is when it is society policy to allow some child abusers to be in positions of trust (ie Minos or elders) as long as NO ONE KNOWS about the past paedophilic conduct! Repentance is enough! Ha! Is society was sincere in care of children not care of law suits then it would encourage parents to go to police not elders because police investigation can get the "second witness" because DNA can be the second witness, or police investigation uncovering previous victim can also be the second witness. Elders should not be investigating what they can't possibly do properly. Yes every religion has freaks and perverts. The problem is when we are told to go to the elders and not the police. The problem is when the elders tell you that you will be disfellowshipped if you go to the police. The problem is when the elders don’t believe you and disfellowship you for committing fornication with the rapist. The problem is when it is society policy to allow some child abusers to be in positions of trust (ie Minos or elders) as long as NO ONE KNOWS about the past paedophilic conduct! Repentance is enough! Ha!
Is society was sincere in care of children not care of law suits then it would encourage parents to go to police not elders because police investigation can get the “second witness” because DNA can be the second witness, or police investigation uncovering previous victim can also be the second witness. Elders should not be investigating what they can’t possibly do properly.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.watchtowerinformationservice.org/sexual-child-abuse/jehovahs-witnesses-hit-with-abuse-suits-alleged-victims-were-molested-as-children-they-say/comment-page-1/#comment-1019 Anonymous Sun, 25 Dec 2005 14:55:51 +0000 http://www.watchtowerinformationservice.org/?p=84#comment-1019 Please go back to school and get an edu-muh-cation. Please go back to school and get an edu-muh-cation.

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