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	<title>Comments on: Video of two Jehovah&#039;s Witness Elders announcing a Wrongdoer that he is Disfellowshipped</title>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 10:44:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-5386&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@someone  &lt;/a&gt; 
On the contrary, I must disagree with you.  I think he had total resepct, respect for his family, friends and loved ones - those whom the Joho&#039;s couldn&#039;t brainwash.  You see only Cults create rules that banish all those in your life that may question the Elders rules and why is that?  Was the Elder hand delivered by God, oh wait - perhaps the Elder put&#039;s himself on the same level as God. Perhaps you should erect a staute of yourselevs and worship that instead, because Jesus doesn&#039;t agree with your practices.  It is so obvious to anyone with a strong will and who has balance in their lives, Joho&#039;s prey on the weak, confused adn people who are going through suffering at the time easy victims.  So, tell me about respect again, becasue Joho&#039;s don&#039;t know the first thing about it - in fact I feel sorry for those who have been victimized by them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-5386" rel="nofollow">@someone  </a><br />
On the contrary, I must disagree with you.  I think he had total resepct, respect for his family, friends and loved ones &#8211; those whom the Joho&#8217;s couldn&#8217;t brainwash.  You see only Cults create rules that banish all those in your life that may question the Elders rules and why is that?  Was the Elder hand delivered by God, oh wait &#8211; perhaps the Elder put&#8217;s himself on the same level as God. Perhaps you should erect a staute of yourselevs and worship that instead, because Jesus doesn&#8217;t agree with your practices.  It is so obvious to anyone with a strong will and who has balance in their lives, Joho&#8217;s prey on the weak, confused adn people who are going through suffering at the time easy victims.  So, tell me about respect again, becasue Joho&#8217;s don&#8217;t know the first thing about it &#8211; in fact I feel sorry for those who have been victimized by them.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 04:06:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Fran, um do you know who started the Joho&#039;s, you may want to do some research there - persoanlly I don&#039;t follow some Pennsylvanian alcoholic redneck wife beating physco.  But hey if that&#039;s what your into go for it, just leave the elderly people alone and stop telling them to cut out their family, their children becasue you want them to give up every last penny to your cult.  Oh yeah and for once in your freaking life tell the truth about your cult, tell them that &quot;hey sorry dude you weren;t born before 1935 so yeah you are gonna burn in hell but hey we want you to join just the same, oh yeah and you will have to shun your entior family, friends and everything you once knew, drop out of school, and perhaps at some point in your life you will have to let certain loved ones die because we don&#039;t believe in blood transfusions and most organ transplants as well&quot;!!!

just be honest and tell them everything, instead if hiding like snakes!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Fran, um do you know who started the Joho&#8217;s, you may want to do some research there &#8211; persoanlly I don&#8217;t follow some Pennsylvanian alcoholic redneck wife beating physco.  But hey if that&#8217;s what your into go for it, just leave the elderly people alone and stop telling them to cut out their family, their children becasue you want them to give up every last penny to your cult.  Oh yeah and for once in your freaking life tell the truth about your cult, tell them that &#8220;hey sorry dude you weren;t born before 1935 so yeah you are gonna burn in hell but hey we want you to join just the same, oh yeah and you will have to shun your entior family, friends and everything you once knew, drop out of school, and perhaps at some point in your life you will have to let certain loved ones die because we don&#8217;t believe in blood transfusions and most organ transplants as well&#8221;!!!</p>
<p>just be honest and tell them everything, instead if hiding like snakes!!</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 03:55:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Markus, you crack me up, loved the used car dealer analogy - had me cracking up big time !!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Markus, you crack me up, loved the used car dealer analogy &#8211; had me cracking up big time !!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 03:50:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a question for all the cult Joho&#039;s, if as you claim that nobody born after 1935 will be allowed into the gates of heaven - why is it you try to recruit younger people?  Wouldn&#039;t you be better off recruiting in nursing homes? Also why do you try to get everyone to turn against their families?  I mean if that isn&#039;t a cult then what is?  You follow some mad man who started this cult who was from Pennyslvania, he physiclaly and emotionally beat his wife - whom, eventually left him for domestic violence.  I mean do you honestly think people can&#039;t do the research?  You tell all the new recruits they have to leave their friends, family, no formal education except for the book of the cult you preach from, think that&#039;s called brainwashing last I checked.  Then you tell them that the world is in league with the devil, umm think it&#039;s actually your cult that is in league with Lucifer to be honest.  Elder sounds like a cult leader by the way, perhaps you need to come up with a new title for the blood sucking parasite who preys like a vulture on the elderley, how much money is one required to pay a month again?  Hmm makes me wonder how the elder lives, nice and cushy I am betting.  Also think it&#039;s hysterical, only 8,600 people will be alllowed into the gates of heaven, umm so do you tell your new recruits that or is that a secret?  Also one thing that really shocks me and probably something I know you leave out to all new recruits - if your child needs a life saving blood transfusion you will have to let your child die...ok then so is that like a sacrifice?  If you told me that I have to let my child die I&#039;d knock your teeth out to be honest, I mean what idiot would let their child or loved one die becasue you said &quot;nope sorry we don&#039;t believe in that just let them die&quot;!!!  Explain John 1:1 by the way, oh wait you can&#039;t can you - not without contradicting yourselves huh?  I think this guy who made this video was giving them a taste of humility, mhm that&#039;s right humility - something they needed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a question for all the cult Joho&#8217;s, if as you claim that nobody born after 1935 will be allowed into the gates of heaven &#8211; why is it you try to recruit younger people?  Wouldn&#8217;t you be better off recruiting in nursing homes? Also why do you try to get everyone to turn against their families?  I mean if that isn&#8217;t a cult then what is?  You follow some mad man who started this cult who was from Pennyslvania, he physiclaly and emotionally beat his wife &#8211; whom, eventually left him for domestic violence.  I mean do you honestly think people can&#8217;t do the research?  You tell all the new recruits they have to leave their friends, family, no formal education except for the book of the cult you preach from, think that&#8217;s called brainwashing last I checked.  Then you tell them that the world is in league with the devil, umm think it&#8217;s actually your cult that is in league with Lucifer to be honest.  Elder sounds like a cult leader by the way, perhaps you need to come up with a new title for the blood sucking parasite who preys like a vulture on the elderley, how much money is one required to pay a month again?  Hmm makes me wonder how the elder lives, nice and cushy I am betting.  Also think it&#8217;s hysterical, only 8,600 people will be alllowed into the gates of heaven, umm so do you tell your new recruits that or is that a secret?  Also one thing that really shocks me and probably something I know you leave out to all new recruits &#8211; if your child needs a life saving blood transfusion you will have to let your child die&#8230;ok then so is that like a sacrifice?  If you told me that I have to let my child die I&#8217;d knock your teeth out to be honest, I mean what idiot would let their child or loved one die becasue you said &#8220;nope sorry we don&#8217;t believe in that just let them die&#8221;!!!  Explain John 1:1 by the way, oh wait you can&#8217;t can you &#8211; not without contradicting yourselves huh?  I think this guy who made this video was giving them a taste of humility, mhm that&#8217;s right humility &#8211; something they needed.</p>
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		<title>By: xJDuB</title>
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		<dc:creator>xJDuB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2011 02:49:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>your a dumb ass just meeting up with them.. All religions are bunch of Bull Crap!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>your a dumb ass just meeting up with them.. All religions are bunch of Bull Crap!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Markus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Markus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Oct 2011 13:14:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jones
I am puzzled why you would attack with the words you have because I believe that God left his children with reliable Satan. This is not my belief, but is fact (if you believe the Bible of course), and you can read all about it yourself in Gensis, in any version of the Bible you may have.

I am very, very sorry for yor loss. 
I know that getting over these trying time is down to your own strength of mind, and help from a close family kinship which you have. 

I am surprised you give credit to God for your recovery. I personally would have given him more credit for perhaps allowing your son to have missed the tree that ended his young life. Ah yes, but this was undoubtably at the bottom of HIS list at the time, especially for a devout Church going Christian as yourself. 

I would praise him every day for his kindness, why not bow down low as kiss the ground like Muslims, don&#039;t you think it is deserved?

Cheers,
Markus</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jones<br />
I am puzzled why you would attack with the words you have because I believe that God left his children with reliable Satan. This is not my belief, but is fact (if you believe the Bible of course), and you can read all about it yourself in Gensis, in any version of the Bible you may have.</p>
<p>I am very, very sorry for yor loss.<br />
I know that getting over these trying time is down to your own strength of mind, and help from a close family kinship which you have. </p>
<p>I am surprised you give credit to God for your recovery. I personally would have given him more credit for perhaps allowing your son to have missed the tree that ended his young life. Ah yes, but this was undoubtably at the bottom of HIS list at the time, especially for a devout Church going Christian as yourself. </p>
<p>I would praise him every day for his kindness, why not bow down low as kiss the ground like Muslims, don&#8217;t you think it is deserved?</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Markus</p>
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		<title>By: Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Oct 2011 14:29:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good Morning Markus.  During the past weeks I have leaned on that which you do not embrace or believe.  On that &quot;nothing&quot; I have received more than any shrink or bottle of pills could do.  If all that is a figment of my imagination then I wish it for anyone who is suffering a broken heart or the unimaginable pain of loss.  What did I tap into?  If it all came from me then where did the strength come from?  What causes my thought processes?  What have I tapped into that is positive and good?  Where do my ideas come from?  What is the source of my dreams that solve problems that I could not solve during my waking hours?  Why am I here?  What is the purpose of life and all the pain that we suffer?  When we die, is that all there is?  Can you give me an answer?

You accuse the creator of leaving children alone with the devil.  Adam and Eve were adults with a list of things to do and not to do.  We are not to know just how long they were in this garden and followed these instructions.  They were given a free will to eat what they wanted from the abundance of that garden.  They made a choice to follow another voice. You blame the creator for their choices.  This is much like what we do today.  I make bad choices and I suffer the consequences.  I have no one else to point a finger to for my bad choice.

Every good that you do is your choice.  Every bad that you do is your choice.  What Adam and Eve did was because they made the choice to do so.  The temptation was put in front of them and they sinned.

I don&#039;t know if you will ever stop being so angry with belief and faith in a higher power but I keep hoping you will be convicted that goodness is far better than evil and you will find the answer why. &lt;a href=&quot;#comment-46439&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Markus  &lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good Morning Markus.  During the past weeks I have leaned on that which you do not embrace or believe.  On that &#8220;nothing&#8221; I have received more than any shrink or bottle of pills could do.  If all that is a figment of my imagination then I wish it for anyone who is suffering a broken heart or the unimaginable pain of loss.  What did I tap into?  If it all came from me then where did the strength come from?  What causes my thought processes?  What have I tapped into that is positive and good?  Where do my ideas come from?  What is the source of my dreams that solve problems that I could not solve during my waking hours?  Why am I here?  What is the purpose of life and all the pain that we suffer?  When we die, is that all there is?  Can you give me an answer?</p>
<p>You accuse the creator of leaving children alone with the devil.  Adam and Eve were adults with a list of things to do and not to do.  We are not to know just how long they were in this garden and followed these instructions.  They were given a free will to eat what they wanted from the abundance of that garden.  They made a choice to follow another voice. You blame the creator for their choices.  This is much like what we do today.  I make bad choices and I suffer the consequences.  I have no one else to point a finger to for my bad choice.</p>
<p>Every good that you do is your choice.  Every bad that you do is your choice.  What Adam and Eve did was because they made the choice to do so.  The temptation was put in front of them and they sinned.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if you will ever stop being so angry with belief and faith in a higher power but I keep hoping you will be convicted that goodness is far better than evil and you will find the answer why. <a href="#comment-46439" rel="nofollow">@Markus  </a></p>
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		<title>By: Markus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Markus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2011 10:53:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jonathan

Why who is to blame? Let me guess it must be.... er um yep, Satan, this is it. Satan the one that caused the calamity of all humankind. Let me get this straight, God goes on a holiday and leaves his two new naive human beings in the trusting hands of the best used car salesman in the Universe.

If YOU went away would you leave your kids in the care of a known murderer or child molestor? Because if you did, and you come home and found your loved ones molested, why? Oh why, would you blame your children? Seems our so called God is as unjustified as he is fictional, both being very obvious in abundance.

PS. God is not a name. There are thousands of Gods, each individualy dreamed up by 
over zealous human minds.

Cheers,
Markus</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jonathan</p>
<p>Why who is to blame? Let me guess it must be&#8230;. er um yep, Satan, this is it. Satan the one that caused the calamity of all humankind. Let me get this straight, God goes on a holiday and leaves his two new naive human beings in the trusting hands of the best used car salesman in the Universe.</p>
<p>If YOU went away would you leave your kids in the care of a known murderer or child molestor? Because if you did, and you come home and found your loved ones molested, why? Oh why, would you blame your children? Seems our so called God is as unjustified as he is fictional, both being very obvious in abundance.</p>
<p>PS. God is not a name. There are thousands of Gods, each individualy dreamed up by<br />
over zealous human minds.</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Markus</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan doe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan doe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2011 02:40:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-44267&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Markus  &lt;/a&gt; 
Its funny you signed that as &quot;God&quot; when it was written by an athiest, &quot;Yourself&quot;  I also find it rather bizzar that for someone who doesnt truly believe in god, to use his name in the same passage over and over. Why do you even refer to him as God?  He doesnt exsist to you right? Your blaming the God that gave you the very breath you use to curse him.... Jesus said he didnt come into the world to condemn the world, but that the world might be saved through him. His teachings are love and all those tragedies that you speak of are caused by us, they are self inflicted tragedies. If God controlled the world, we would all be perfect. he gave us the ability to choose between life and death and you have that choice as well. Please dont blame God for all the wrong in the world.  Your words are more than words, it is an obvious sign that you have already chosen Satans side...the one that hates you and wants to destroy you. Jesus loves you dont forget that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-44267" rel="nofollow">@Markus  </a><br />
Its funny you signed that as &#8220;God&#8221; when it was written by an athiest, &#8220;Yourself&#8221;  I also find it rather bizzar that for someone who doesnt truly believe in god, to use his name in the same passage over and over. Why do you even refer to him as God?  He doesnt exsist to you right? Your blaming the God that gave you the very breath you use to curse him&#8230;. Jesus said he didnt come into the world to condemn the world, but that the world might be saved through him. His teachings are love and all those tragedies that you speak of are caused by us, they are self inflicted tragedies. If God controlled the world, we would all be perfect. he gave us the ability to choose between life and death and you have that choice as well. Please dont blame God for all the wrong in the world.  Your words are more than words, it is an obvious sign that you have already chosen Satans side&#8230;the one that hates you and wants to destroy you. Jesus loves you dont forget that.</p>
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		<title>By: Markus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Markus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2011 09:10:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jonathan
God gave us nothing you pillock. We are advanced primates and this is what we do. That bible of your is written by the same primates.
Cheers,
Markus</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jonathan<br />
God gave us nothing you pillock. We are advanced primates and this is what we do. That bible of your is written by the same primates.<br />
Cheers,<br />
Markus</p>
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