Video of a Jehovah’s Witness elder 'twisting' the Truth in Court
In this video an elder states that disfellowshipping is a congregational matter and not a family matter and that Jehovah’s Witnesses don’t use the word ‘shunning’.
He talks positively about disfellowshipping saying that “for every six or ten people you bring on here that have bad experiences [with disfellowshipping] I can bring a hundred people that have been disfellowshipped … who will say it is the best thing that happened in their life”. Watch the video!
Twisting the truth is not considered as lying by Jehovah’s Witnesses according to their literature:
“While malicious lying is definitely condemned in the Bible, this does not mean that a person is under obligation to divulge truthful information to people who are not entitled to it.” -Aid to Bible Understanding, pages 1060-1061
Some details about this trial:
Custody Case 1997-2005 USA
“Mr. M shall not directly or indirectly expose or allow the children to be exposed to shunning of their mother, or to engage in any family contacts or religious activities that directly or indirectly suggest or expose them to teachings, scriptural interpretations or declarations that Mrs. M is anything less than a good and honorable person and fully worthy of designated, implied, inferred, promised, reserved, assumed, or otherwise available, obtainable or receivable, so called spiritual blessings or rewards which might be obtained or available to faithful religious persons, including faithful members of the JW church. This shall include his exposure of the children to family members, church teachers, preachers, or other advocates of the JW church or to any condemning doctrines or activities. Mr. M shall not have, suggest or cause any religious communications with the children, advise them regarding religion or direct or advise them regarding what their personal conduct or religious activities should be, or monitor their activities to determine if they are in compliance with his religious beliefs, while they are with Mrs. M.”
“The court believes this conduct negatively affecting the children’s relationship with their mother should stop or be condemned. This church judgementalism, coupled with the malicious use of false accusations against their mother and her husband by their father, has nearly frightened these children away from their mother and her husband even though she is a sincere caring mother. Recognizing the children’s concerns and fears, the Court ordered that Mr. M be granted custody of the children, at least for the past year. This was granted notwithstanding the terrible wrongs he has perpetrated against his ex-wife and her husband. (Defendant) is treated as spiritually dead by the JW church and the extended family who are members. This ridiculous concept of people judging others appears to be a strong part of the religious judgementalistic doctrine and is apparently required of the members of the church.”
I would say that most JW are living the double life. They dont really believe it but the price of leaving would be too high.
dear Reubens,
I hope that you will be reinstated as a jehovordure as soon as possible. From your moronic comments it’s clear that chatting with you is tantamount to chatting with a scarecrow (happy I likened your worthless shape to that of your semi-god/second-rate god jesus the christo scarecrow?).
Moreover, it seems even clearer that you were born to be a jehowhore. Enjoy it, relish in your religion, and above all, once reinstated, never leave the org.
You don’t have any disease. You are a disease.
I believe that all personal opinions are questionable ?
But more than wrong !
Are these so-called inspired : false teachers of the
Jehova Witness , who critizise the other religios grou-
ps , But with the only concern to grow and get bigger
for the purpose of profit ( money). The Catholics and
other Christian denominations have flaws : especially
the Roman Catholic church the head of Satans Babilon-
ic system , just read apocalipsis or revelation what ever you want to call it .
These false teachers like in the moses era twist and convert the language of the people , and now they have a bunch of fanatics , so-called ( jehova witness )
who don’t even understand what they ‘re preaching .
How are you going “to obey someone” if ” you think your-self that one”.You are still in baby pampers and
you need not preach ,but look for guidence of the ( Holy
Spirit) workers of evil … That’s why so many are turning their backs to the Holy Spirit .You followers
of men! full of the spirit of perdition.
You might think the flesh is easy to defeat , the Spiri-
conqueres the flesh, just like Jesus defeated the flesh,
we receive the H /S and we conquer the flesh and God
when in his return receives us who have the H/S ,
That means the mark of God , not the mark of the beast .Those who are spiritual are of the spirit and …
If you really want a chance ask Jesus to come in your
heart and He the King will do so , not a bunch of so called Holly men Jesus is over all , and will give you the authority to be over all things. Mas que vencedores
por la Gracia del : SEÑOR DE LA GLORIA NO ES JUDIO, SINO REY DE LOS SANTOS DEL REY INMORTAL INVICIB-
LE JEHOVA DE LOS EJERCITOS.
Hi
Not surprised ur anonymous – unless someone hacked my security from Brazil you didn’t trace my IP to the same address!
This just reinforces to JW’s that all outside the org are liars – you are advancing their cause
I am actually an ex JW who has every reason to be bitter & twisted but hey I now have a fab life that I wouldn’t have had if the hypocrites hadn’t opened my eyes to what life as a jw was really all about.
But when I left I lost my family. I’m not disfellowshipped so they still exchange occasional pleasantries but despite having 2 degrees, a good career, having a strong family & generally being pretty nice, I am the one they are ashamed of.
I was just recognising that for some the cost of leaving is too high & if you squint alot you can actually live a very happy existence as a JW. If anyone wants to do that I may not agree that its a good idea but live & let live. It takes a huge amount of guts and sacrifice to leave – not everyone is strong enough to do it and some just aren’t willing pay the high price of losing everyone they love. That’s understandable if naive but doesn’t warrant a vicious attack.
rubens and vix are the same person. The IP address was traced. Here is another jw with bipolar desiase.
Rubens tu es um grande idiota, foste avisado varias vezes para nao vires a websites como este, se acreditas que as testemunhas the jeova sao a relegiao certa que fazes aqui burro idiota?