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On Socialisation and Rebellion: A Sociological Analysis of the Religious Experiences of Young Jehovah's Witnesses

October 23rd, 2005 Leave a comment Go to comments

Andrew Holden
Department of Religious Studies, Lancaster University, UK

ABSTRACT

Jehovah’s Witnesses are members of a puritanical religious movement that claims to be in but not of the world.  The Witnesses are zealous proselytisers who have expanded rapidly over the past 130 years and there are now more than 6 million devotees worldwide. Jehovah\"s Witnesses children
This paper examines the socialisation of second and subsequent generation members and describes how the movement deals with those who refuse to comply with its regime. Extracts are presented from interviews with young members who recall their childhood memories of growing up in the movement and explain what happened when they rebelled against its quasi-totalitarian doctrines. The main argument advanced in the paper is that parents who socialise their children in accordance with this particular creed are protecting them from a modern world of relativism and uncertainty.

Jehovah’s Witnesses are members of a world-renouncing religious movement officially known as the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society.  The Society was founded by Charles Taze Russell in 1872 and claims to monopolise the word of God.  Since the foundation of the movement, devotees have maintained that we are living in the Final Days.  Their eschatology is based on a literal interpretation of the Bible and almost all the movement’s literature makes reference to the New Kingdom which the Witnesses believe will be inaugurated by Jehovah at Armageddon.1  The Society’s worldwide membership rose from a mere 44,080 in 1928 to an impressive 6,035,564 in 2000, making an annual net growth of around 5 per cent (Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania 2001).2  Even the most conservative
estimates indicate that by the year 2020, there will be something in the region of 12,475,115 Witness evangelists (Stark and Iannaccone 1997:153-4).3 The Witnesses attribute their international success to the fulfilment of the prophecy of Matthew 24 which states that the gospel of the Kingdom will be preached to the ends of the earth. They espouse an exclusive message which declares that while a great multitude of righteous people (including those who do not necessarily share their faith), will be granted eternal life on earth, only 144,000 members of their own community (the figure mentioned in Revelation 14:3) will enter heaven. Their heterodox purity code which prohibits, among other things, sexual relationships outside marriage, blood transfusions, annual celebrations (including Christmas, Easter, birthdays and national festivals) and involvement in all political affairs means that they are highly unlikely, despite their worldwide ministry, to recruit anything other than a small number of zealous members. The Society (to which the Witnesses themselves refer as the truth) rejects all other religious creeds as heresy and supports its doctrines with biblical texts. The movement is fundamentally a rational, rather than a mystical one.  It is a religion of disenchantment and serious study of the Bible and Watch Tower publications, of which prospective recruits must demonstrate their knowledge before they can be baptised.  Spiritual activities comprise a series of weekly meetings at the local Kingdom Hall (the official name for the Witnesses’

place of worship) and aggressive door-to-door evangelism. The movement discourages devotees from associating unnecessary with non-members and are thus able to offer those who are willing to accept its millenarian message a plausible weltanschauung and the security of a tightly knit community.  In a modern secular world in which all manner of life options are available, the Witnesses stand out as calculating, conservative and authoritarian.  The movement’s demand of unquestioning loyalty means that those who violate its moral or doctrinal code risk disfellowship.  To the sceptical outsider, this is a movement that bears all the hallmarks of a totalitarian regime.

Despite their successful evangelistic mission, there is a dearth of academic literature on the Witnesses.  Beckford (1975a, 1975b, 1976), Wilson (1974, 1978, 1990) and Dobbelaere and Wilson (1980) have carried out the most extensive research, but these studies are now rather dated.  Moreover, the Witnesses seldom receive more than a brief mention in most of the key textbooks on the sociology of religion. There is, however, a larger number of published articles on the Watch Tower movement in journals such as Social Compass, Sociological Analysis, The Journal of Modern African Studies and The British Journal of Sociology, but even these tend to be written from a macro perspective and fail to give devotees themselves a voice. Where academics have addressed agency, it is usually in relation to conversion and/or continuation of membership. Search as I may in the sociological and anthropological literature on the movement, I find little discussion of the effects of Watch Tower teachings either on the Witnesses themselves or on their children. This paper addresses these caveats. Not surprisingly, most Witness couples introduce their children to Watch Tower principles very early on in life in the hope that this will result in baptism when the child reaches his or her late-teens. From the Witnesses’ point of view, involving children in worship serves two essential purposes. Firstly, it is an easy way of recruiting new members to the Society, thereby enhancing conversion statistics for the future and, secondly, it is a means of protecting what are arguably society’s most vulnerable people from the snares of the devil. What follows is an examination of the various ways in which second and subsequent generation Witnesses are socialised into the Watch Tower regime and what happens to those who rebel against it. I write as a sociologist with an interest in what the movement means to adult members who endorse its doctrines and to youngsters who defect. The data were collected in a recent ethnographic study in the North West of England and include extracts from a series of unstructured interviews.  The interview method was chosen in order that devotees and their disaffected children might tell their own stories.

Nurturing the innocent

From the moment of their foundation, Jehovah’s Witnesses have remained emphatic in their claim that they are in but not of the world, and they devote the whole of their religious ministry preparing for a Messianic Kingdom. Unlike other separatists such as the Amish, the Hutterites and the Plymouth Brethren, however, the Witnesses live in ordinary neighbourhoods, are employed in mainstream occupations and even occupy the same households as those who do not share their faith. This means that in the course of their everyday lives, they must manage their social relations in a way that enables them to live and work among outsiders and at the same time, remain true to their strict ascetic beliefs. The caution with which the Witnesses approach modern secular society can be seen in how they socialise second and subsequent generation members. Year on year, the movement circulates millions of tracts for young people containing advice about faith, morality, dating, marriage, personal happiness and much more. There is also a substantial amount of material for parents who are worried about how to bring up their children in what is regarded as a troubled and hostile world.  The movement’s teachings on childhood and parenting provide the ethnographer with rich information for the analysis of millenarian religion.

The Witnesses are zealous people who regard young people as a crucial resource. It would be wrong to suggest, however, that there is a uniform approach to parenting. Devotees deal differently with tensions between personal feelings and ascetic principles, and that there is no stereotypical Jehovah’s Witness response to life in the twenty-first century.  This also applies to the nurturing of children. While all Witness parents hope that their sons and daughters will continue to fight the Watch Tower cause long in to the future, there are significant differences in parents’ views on matters such as discipline, association with non-members and, perhaps most surprisingly, involvement in religious activities.4 The socialisation of children into the milieu of the Society occurs at both macro and micro levels. The macro level concerns the official precepts that are issued by the movement and communicated from top downwards, mainly in the form of tracts and magazines.5 Some of these are written specifically for children and contain advice about how best to achieve happiness in a world that is to all intents and purposes, secular. Others are aimed at parents, offering support and encouragement in times of trial and tribulation. Micro socialisation, on the other hand, is about everyday parenting and the scenarios to which this gives rise at grass-roots level. The Governing Body propounds the view that well-mannered children are the products of good adult example, and this means the constant monitoring and surveillance of their behaviour. Responsibility for this is considered to rest with parents. The nature of children’s activities and the dynamics of parent-child interaction are the empirical measures against which the effectiveness of micro socialisation can be judged.

Respect for adults, particularly for parents, is one issue about which the Witnesses have a great deal to say. The movement stresses the importance of child subservience even in cases where the example set by parents leaves much to be desired This reveals something important about the Witnesses’ concept of childhood.  Although it would be wrong to suggest that the movement adopts the Victorian view that children should be seen and not heard (Witness children are, after all, encouraged to take part in door-to-door proselytising), it is clear that it does not welcome dissidence or even mild questioning. This makes it difficult for young Witnesses, especially those under the age of 16, to refuse to undertake Bible study or to attend meetings with their parents at the Kingdom Hall. On the whole, youngsters display an extraordinary degree of politeness towards adults and a profound respect for the movement’s theology.  Only those who lapse in later life tend to confess that they found ‘studying’ laborious, but claim they had had little other choice than to acquiesce during childhood. Children’s involvement at meetings cannot go unnoticed. Those as young as 4 or 5 years of age can be seen contributing to some of the discussions, but more active involvement increases as children reach teenage years. Long before they are baptised, children partake in the rôle-play sessions (usually with adults) where they rehearse doorstep sermons. Adult members of the congregation usually accompany  the child in door to door evangelism. Parents, aunts and uncles are the driving force behind children’s participation, but like most millenarian communities, the strong emotional bonds that exist between devotees help to sustain motivation. Studying is, by and large, a family affair. The role of adult members is crucial if children are to be effectively socialised into the Watch Tower regime and if the movement is to survive in the longer term. In the short term, subjecting children to the study of Watch Tower tracts and the never ending programme of activities at the Kingdom Hall enables devotees to exercise control in a remarkably different way to that of other parents. Witnesses are, to all intents and purposes, strict disciplinarians who do not allow misdemeanours to go uncontested or their authority to be challenged. It is not uncommon to see children who step out of line at Watch Tower meetings being verbally and sometimes physically chastised. One former member told me how, in his former years as a congregational elder, he had taken his two sons outside the Kingdom Hall and beaten them when they had allowed their minds to wander off a sermon. At the micro level of socialisation, devotees go to considerable lengths to screen out undesirable associates by arranging activities for junior members. Large groups of Witness children are often taken to tenpin bowling allies, ice-skating rinks and the cinema. These pursuits usually take place at weekends and are arranged by parents who devise a supervision rota. Although teenagers are never allowed to go away on holiday alone with a boyfriend or girlfriend, they are generally free to join other Witness families on trips abroad with adults acting as chaperones. Consequently, young Witnesses form their closest ties with their siblings, cousins and friends of a similar age.

Children’s leisure is not the only thing Witness parents like to vet. The movement’s Governing Body is all too aware that once young children learn to read, the world is their oyster. Parents take great care in ensuring that where possible, reading materials, television programmes and more recently, data that can be downloaded on computers meet the approval of officials.

From an early age, children are weaned on infant reading schemes that reinforce the movement’s perspective on existential issues such as creation, the purpose of life, the path to salvation, the causes of suffering and what happens to us when we die. As one might expect, these books contain biblical stories, illustrations, puzzles and simple questions, all of which are designed to make children aware of the errancy of other belief systems and the presence of evil in the world. But perhaps the most subtle characteristic of Watch Tower literature for small children is the absence of conventional make-believe. One mother explained how she would not allow her seven year old son to read books that contained references to witches, fairies or magicians because of the movement’s rejection of superstition.  Moreover, the Witnesses’ refusal to celebrate Christmas means that children are aware that Santa Claus is a fictitious character and cannot, therefore, bring presents. While there is no knowing whether all devotees are as painstaking as this in their efforts to safeguard their children against surrealism, one could be forgiven for thinking that if the tenets of the Watch Tower are to be fundamentally upheld, no Witness child would ever encounter the vast array of nursery rhymes and adventure stories that are embedded in modern culture. It is only because fiction pervades the public sphere that parents cannot completely censor their children’s reading materials.

Older children, because they are generally allowed more freedom and are exposed to secular adolescent culture (particularly at school), soon become aware of adult literature. There is nothing more alarming to Witness parents than an inquisitive 13 or 14 year old with a desire to explore a world in which traditional authority and moral boundaries have weakened. At the same time, preventing children from hanging around on street corners does not necessarily avert their interest in teenage magazines, romantic novels and a whole host of other publications that the Governing Body deems inappropriate. Whatever steps parents might take to safeguard their children, literature of this nature is available in libraries and bookshops. In its concern about the so-called dangers of these sources and the relative ease with which they can be obtained, the movement has little other option than to appeal to the moral integrity of children who might be tempted to read it.

There is, however, one resource that has given children more freedom than ever before to access written and visual text – the worldwide web. This revolutionary technology has enabled young and old alike to search for information ranging from gardening to pornography, and this is a prospect that fills every Witness parent with horror. The movement’s response to the internet is ambivalent to say the least. At its most sanguine, Watch Tower literature has applauded international electronic communication since this is a facility from which the Society has itself benefited. The net not only provides devotees with a means of proselytising, it also enables them to e-mail their co-religionists and to keep abreast of what is happening thousands of miles away. On the other hand, at no other period in history has there been so much electronic data available and so little control over what can be downloaded. At present, there is little to prevent anyone from establishing their own website and from supplying potential browsers with whatever information they want. For this reason, surfing the net is dangerous business. This is one activity that parents are unable to police, and any attempt to do so might arouse a child’s curiosity.  Needless to say, this versatile technology continues to be a source of concern for the movement’s Governing Body.

Despite the large amount of reading involved in Watch Tower membership, it would be a mistake to assume that Witness children are high academic achievers. There are two reasons why this is not generally the case. Firstly, the passive ‘learning’ that takes place in the Kingdom Hall and at Book Study meetings fails to procure the critical thinking, less still the analytical skills, required for high level academic performance; and secondly, the Society’s unequivocal millenarian perspective means that whatever the academic potential of its younger members, evangelistic activities take priority over educational success. Young Witnesses who intend to undergo baptism rarely progress to college or university. This can be a source of regret in subsequent years among those who later defect. One former member told me:

Witnesses don’t push you with school work. If you’re a Witness, education just doesn’t seem to be an issue. Although my mum and dad always wanted me to do well, they didn’t show a great deal of interest in my school work because as far as the Witnesses are concerned, you’re going to become a pioneer when you leave school and work part-time. You can’t have a career because your ‘career’ is going to be in the Witness organisation. I started off at school with the best of intentions and I’d have liked to have done a lot better, but my parents never pushed me so I stopped trying. My sister who never questioned anything the Witnesses did went on to become a pioneer, worked part-time on a fruit and veg stall, has no direction, doesn’t own her own house and doesn’t have a pension scheme! I’ve been back to college since and done NVQs in Business Management and Administration.

This young woman’s comments suggest that the Witnesses pay lip-service to compulsory education and fail to use it as an avenue for upward social mobility.6 While the Governing Body wants its younger members to attain an adequate level of literacy, (if only to enhance their ministerial skills), it continues to worry that education for the pursuit of career success and material wealth might lead to the pursuit of personal interests at the expense of spiritual well-being.  To this day, Witness children abstain from all forms of non-Witness worship, school politics, nationalistic practices such as saluting flags and singing anthems and curricular and extracurricular activities for Christmas and Easter. Parents are requested to monitor the school curriculum (particularly performing arts and media programmes) in order to ensure that their children are protected from ‘unwholesome associations’.7  While the Society has no objection to Religious Studies syllabuses that contain factual information about world faiths, participation in worship is still strictly forbidden. This means that like the Muslim community, the Witnesses may choose to withdraw their children from school assemblies that include Christian prayers and/or hymn singing, although it is becoming increasingly common for Witness children to attend religious assemblies without partaking in rituals. Participation in after-school clubs continues to be discouraged because it is feared that it will leave less time for Witnessing activities and could lead to wayward behaviour. Witness parents, perhaps more than any others, find themselves in constant dialogue with governors, teachers and other educational administrators who work within a system that does not always operate in accordance with Watch Tower doctrines. Although a child from any background might wish to refrain from certain school activities, the larger than average number of objections made by the movement’s Governing Body means that it is difficult for young members to experience an education that is completely free from tension with school authorities. Although Witness pupils who attend non-denominational schools are usually spared from having to conscientiously object to religious worship, they must continue to jettison those aspects of school culture that contravene the Watch Tower code.8  The fact that the education system accommodates the Witnesses is, however, indicative of a pluralistic society that protects people’s citizenship rights.

It would be remiss of me to end this section without commenting on how parents deal with children who begin to express an interest in the opposite sex. Naturally, Witnesses in their mid to late-teens often form an attraction for someone of a similar age either in or outside the movement. But unlike many of their counterparts in the world, these young millenarians are not given the approval of adults. The Governing Body is critical of parents who allow children unlimited freedom, and premarital sex is forbidden. In turn, parents have strong reservations about nightclubs, town-centre pubs and other social arenas with which the movement associates hedonism. The Witnesses’ approach to romance resonates with what many would regard as a bygone age. Dating while still at school is discouraged, not only because of its possible effects on educational attainment, but also because those of school age are considered too young to enter into relationships. While the Watch Tower authorities have no objection to platonic friendships between young people, sexual activity is strictly forbidden. Parents who are worried that this might happen are advised to keep a watchful eye on proceedings.

Notwithstanding the Society’s objection to unsupervised romance, it would be more than a little surprising if the Governing Body were to issue an official age at which serious dating could commence. Generally speaking, young couples in their late teens are free to date each other without a chaperone. By this age, the tacit rules of courting are the same as for anyone else. But courting couples have a moral responsibility to show the rest of the world that chastity is not dead; hence, while they are free to meet each other in public, they are not usually allowed to meet in private.  Watch Tower guidelines for young people stress the importance of sexual purity and urge those in relationships to resist situations that may cause them to sin. Devotees in romantic relationships, including those engaged to be married, can face serious disciplinary action if there is any reason to suspect that they may be involved either in sexual activity or in immodest behaviour such as heavy petting or kissing. Engaged couples who buy houses in preparation for marriage must ensure that should they need to carry out repairs, a third party is always present. Though reminiscent of a bygone age, chivalry of this kind is an outward sign of clean living. The large body of Watch Tower literature with its persistent stress on the importance of celibacy outside and fidelity within marriage approaches sexual issues from a moral perspective that does not allow for deviation. Although some of this literature refers to issues such as puberty and hormonal changes, there is rarely any mention of birth control. Some parents with whom I spoke were vehemently opposed to sex education in schools on the grounds that it would encourage more teenage pregnancies, the rate of which they already deplored.9 The Witnesses’ unabated attacks on homosexuality and adultery serve to remind children that restrained heterosexual sex between married couples is the only acceptable form of sexual expression.10 In the meantime, it would take a courageous child to argue.

Growing up in the Watch Tower Society is something few non-Witness children would envy. While the effects of socialisation vary from one individual to another, there is little doubt that the Witnesses’ weltanschauung has a huge impact on the reality of second generation members. This may also be true of mainstream Christianity and other systems of belief, but a sizeable number of children reared in the Watch Tower community from a very young age often claim that their religion made them feel different from their non-Witness peers. This is seldom something Catholic, Anglican or even Muslim children experience, not only because there are many more of them in schools and local communities, but also because their beliefs do not prevent them from taking part in activities in which most other children engage. This is not to say that Witness parents do not buy their children toys, games and learning aids, but I have offered several examples of how the movement’s heterodox beliefs conflict with conventional concepts childhood. Wherever one might stand on this issue, Witness children have little other option than to honour their fathers and their mothers.

The ones who say ‘No’

Continued membership of a totalitarian organisation is never unconditional. When Russell founded the Watch Tower Society in the late-nineteenth century, his intention was to offer an alternative belief-system to mainstream Christianity, and one (the only one) that represented the revealed word of God. From the time of its inception, the movement was indisputably sectarian – it was small, it was intense, it claimed monopoly over truth; and consequently, its
members felt exclusive. Communities like this are dependent on those born into them for
ong -term survival. The movement owes much of its international expansion to horizontal and vertical recruitment. Mothers, fathers, brothers, sisters, sons, daughters, aunts, uncles, nephews, nieces, cousins, in-laws, grandparents and grandchildren are all prime candidates for baptism – a rite of passage that boosts the annual membership statistics. Were it not for the significance of kinship, the Witnesses would not have had anything like the amount of success they have either in recruitment or retention. But what about children who express disdain for a mission they have been brought up to believe is so sacrosanct? What do the parents do then?

In a world in which people are allegedly free to choose from a whole range of options, children’s acquiescence matters to the movement like never before. The available research suggests that the Witnesses are successful in retaining their children. For example, Beckford

(1975a) discovered that around two-thirds of second generation Witnesses over 16 remained active members. This corresponds with the General Social Survey of 1994 which showed a retention rate of around 70 per cent.11 The Witnesses nurture their young in accordance with Watch Tower doctrines because they believe it is the right thing to do, and as far as they are concerned, that is the end of the matter. At the macro level, the Governing Body has a responsibility to ensure that parents in every congregation are supported to the nth degree, not only because it shares the same spiritual objectives, but because it must consider long- term survival. So long as children tow the line, all should be well; but those who refuse baptism do damage to the membership statistics. Children are the movement’s bread and butter. Only a parent lacking in foresight would allow a child to miss Kingdom Hall meetings or to question the principles on which the theology is based. Only a foolish one would encourage excessive contact with the outside world or turn a blind eye to issues that could have serious implications. For the Witnesses, an expedient parent is a forbidding parent. It is someone who is able to recognise the seductive forces that will lead their child astray and who drives them away before they are able to strike. It is also someone who is aware that even the nicest outsider who appears to be kind to children may be a wolf in sheep’s clothing; skilled at making something sinister look glamorous. Witness parents everywhere must be on their guard.

Rebellion within the Watch Tower community can take a number of forms, all of which are worthy of sociological analysis, but space dictates that I be selective. The following account is not about feckless youngsters who go missing on a warm summer evening twenty minutes before they are due to set off with their parents to the Kingdom Hall, or those who ignore the elder’s request for silence when a meeting is about to commence. Nor is it about children who fail to take seriously the words of an angry parent when their preparation for a Book Study has been found wanting. Even for disciplinarians like the Witnesses, minor misdemeanours such as these constitute little more than naughtiness and present no real threat to the community.  Instead, I have decided to focus on children of around 15 upwards who have decided, without reservation, that Watch Tower life is no longer for them. These dissidents are the Society’s bête noire. Their behaviour poses a more serious challenge and has graver long term implications. A child who is unwilling to partake in worship is not like a child who does not want to go to bed. Children who wish to terminate their membership are raising a spiritual objection, the effects of which are catastrophic. Congregational elders hope that by the age of about 16, a young person who has received a Witness upbringing will make the decision to become an official evangelist, for which baptism is the appropriate requisite. But this is also the age at which children have reached legal independence, and there is nothing to prevent them from leaving home. As far as the Witnesses are concerned, this is not the issue. Those who abandon the Society, whatever their legal rights, are playing with fire; far more than those in the outside world who at least can be excused on the grounds that they know no better. In this respect, voluntary defection is like involuntary expulsion; the first step to mayhem, perhaps even to annihilation.

Whatever else might happen, the kind of rebellion to which I am referring begins or ends with the refusal to attend Watch Tower meetings. Although this is never well received either by loved ones or by other devotees, it can happen for a number of reasons. Some individuals may feel anxious about having to stand on a platform and rehearse doorstep sermons in front of the whole congregation; hardly an easy feat even for the most confident youngster. Others may be aware of events that are taking place elsewhere on the evenings when meetings are held, be it a game of football or an extracurricular activity at school. Or, less commonly, there could be an unbelieving relative at home (as in the case of mixed marriages) who has the luxury of staying in and watching television while the rest of the family is engaged in worship.  Whatever the reason, the alternatives to studying religious texts and listening to what seem like endless monologues can be very attractive indeed to someone for whom studying is an altogether too demanding way of life. This is not to say that second generation members who turn away from the movement necessarily renounce its principles. For all their objections, it would be surprising if these youngsters did not endorse some of the values that they had had their whole lives to internalise. In this respect, lapsed Witnesses are no different from lapsed Catholics or lapsed Methodists in that their defection usually signifies a rejection of the movement’s rituals and doctrines rather than its values of honesty, charity and integrity. The following excerpt is from an interview  with Laura, a 25 year old former member who, after several years of squabbling with her parents, left the community at the age of 16:

My earliest memories of childhood are of being dragged to meetings so often; it was the absolute centre of my life for two hours at a time, three times a week. By the time I was about 8 or 9, I started thinking ‘This is a bind. I’m not enjoying this’. You see, the truth makes parents stricter than parents who aren’t Witnesses; it keeps you in this little circle of people that you never go outside of, except when you’re at school.

… But leaving aside their religion, my parents are two very loving people who would give their best at all times. Most of what they say is true and I do believe it, I just can’t follow it … but being brought up a Witness has given me a good steady base. I know I’m a responsible person; I think about things before I do them, I take other people’s feelings into consideration … all sorts of things the Witnesses are, they’ve passed down to me.

Laura’s disdain for Watch Tower meetings is tempered with what seems like an apology for her defection. While it is difficult to ascertain how much of the movement’s theology former members like Laura accept, there was certainly a desire among the young people I interviewed to remain close to their parents for whom they expressed much affection. Whatever grudges against the movement these individuals might have held, I found no evidence of permanent estrangement from loved ones. For one thing, teenage defectors are likely to be living in their parents’ home during the initial stages of their defection (a situation that requires tolerance from all parties if the lid is to be kept on a simmering pot), and for another, the strong kinship ties for which the Witnesses are renowned cannot easily be severed between parents and children, whatever their grievances. But these might be the only factors that prevent a Witness family from falling apart in the short-term. Some of the ‘rebels’ I met regaled me with stories of how, in their bid for freedom, they would climb out of their bedroom windows in the evenings to be with their friends, smuggle alcohol and cigarettes into the house, take public transport to forbidden venues and, in some cases, engage in sexual activities. Tammy’s story echoes some of this:

When I was about fifteen, I had a large circle of Witness friends and we were all doing things we shouldn’t have been doing … we were all smoking, we were all drinking, we were all going out with the opposite sex, we all used to go home late. I remember one night, we were supposed to be going ice-skating and Martin, my cousin, had sneaked some Special Brew under his coat and we drank it together in the park … on that occasion, we got the bus back to his house cos we weren’t being picked up … I’d say a good half of us have now left the truth.

Tammy’s reminiscence of her deviant past suggests that second-generation dissidence among the Witnesses may be more widespread than parents realise. Regardless of whether they remain in membership, youngsters like Tammy are no different from most other teenagers in pursuit of adventure. Tammy’s rebellion is a response not merely to authority, but to her parents’ brand of authority; that is, to a value system that is governed by strict religious edicts. She was adamant that the conflict with her parents could have been greatly reduced had they been more liberal:

By the time I was at secondary school, I started thinking to myself ‘I could be going out with my friends tonight to the park, just messing about doing this and doing that, not to do anything wrong, but just to go out to the youth club and things like that; but instead I’ve got to go to a meeting for two hours, and by the time I get home it’ll be too late.’ When I was about 13, my parents wanted to mould me and limit my association with certain people. Even when I was older and I was allowed out, there was always a curfew of half past eight; everybody else was going home at ten … mind you, other Witness children weren’t allowed any association with any non-Witnesses apart from at school, so I suppose I had a lot of freedom! By the time I was in my final year at school, I was spending most of my time fighting my parents and at that point, I decided I wasn’t going to any more meetings. They were trying to control me and I didn’t want to be controlled; they weren’t willing to bend at all. If I’d just been left to do my own thing for a while with guidance rather than strict guidelines, I might still be a Witness now.

The lengths to which Tammy’s parents were prepared to go to ensure that she remained within the parameters of the Watch Tower – their insistence that she attend all meetings, the limited amount of time she was allowed to spend with her non-Witness friends and the curfews by which she had to abide – confirm their disdain for the secular world.  This is the consequence of no ordinary generation gap. A great many parents who live in the modern West make the claim that when they were teenagers, things were different; that it was safe to walk the streets without fear of attack, that they could leave their homes unlocked and know that they would not be burgled and that there was never any sex before marriage. But unless, like the Witnesses, they hold fundamentalist religious beliefs, their nostalgic memories do not generally cause them to impose anything like the same constraints on their children as those to which Tammy was subjected. It would be wrong to assume from this, however, that Tammy and her Witness friends are indifferent to religious matters. Rather, they see themselves as products of a system that views the world with far deeper suspicion than is justified – one that is premised on the belief that children who have too much contact with secular influences tumble interminably into some vortex of depravity. Witness children who show affinity with the mores of the present day fill their parents with anxiety. It is a sociological axiom that millenarian theologies thrive on the notion of things becoming progressively worse. Demonising the modern world enables the movement to affirm its exclusivity.

Tammy’s acts of defiance in her younger years – smoking tobacco, drinking alcohol and arranging illicit meetings with her friends in the park – are, however, minor aberrations compared with those of Natasha. Like Tammy, Natasha bickered constantly with her parents throughout her school years as a result of being made to attend Watch Tower meetings; but Natasha’s story is much more dramatic. She terminated her membership one evening after a violent quarrel with her mother at the Kingdom Hall. This was triggered by Natasha’s resistance to taking part a rôle-play session on the platform:

If you know anything about the Witnesses, you’ll know that we have what we call the Ministry School where we do little household talks on the platform. Anyway, this particular lady from the congregation, I was her ‘householder’ and I’d been round and practised it the previous week, and I wasn’t happy about it because of my age; I was quite self-conscious and I didn’t want to appear a fool. Anyway, it came to the actual night, and just before I was about to walk on to the platform, I had a massive outburst and I just ran off to the toilets and I said ‘I’m not doing it, I’m NOT doing it, and I’m not coming again!’ and my mum came running after me and she said ‘Oh yes you are!’ and all hell broke loose, but I’d got it into my head that I was sixteen and that if I didn’t want to go any more, I wouldn’t. I never went to another meeting after that.

Although both Natasha’s parents practised their faith earnestly, it was, in fact, her mother who claimed responsibility for ensuring that Natasha and her older sister completed their weekly Bible studies and door-to-door service work. Natasha’s father was, it seems, less authoritarian than his wife (an unusual scenario considering the patriarchal nature of the movement) which explains why it was with her mother that Natasha most frequently remonstrated:

Mum and I were at each other’s throats endlessly and it was a real hassle for my dad … he didn’t want to get involved really. I remember one night when we were having tea, my mum and I were at it hammer and tongues, and he just picked up his plate
and smashed it on the floor and he yelled ‘I’ve had enough of this!’ He’d got to the point where he didn’t know what to do next. My mum was so intense about things and he wasn’t. She just kept pushing and pushing and pushing.

For the next two years, Natasha formed a steady relationship with her boyfriend, Dominic, a lapsed Catholic who was four years older than she, and who was, to Natasha’s relief, indifferent to religion. Not surprisingly, Natasha’s parents disapproved of the relationship and insisted that while Natasha remained living with them, she came home every night and invite Dominic to the house only when they were present. They also forbade Dominic and Natasha from going away together on holiday. Natasha’s relationship with her parents finally reached an impasse when, a few weeks before her nineteenth birthday, she fell pregnant – a moral violation for which Natasha knew she would be evicted. With much foreboding, Natasha broke the news to her parents and went to live with Dominic’s sister. By the time Natasha had given birth to their baby girl, the couple had moved into their own home and planned to marry the following year. Meanwhile, Natasha’s mother, who was probably at her lowest point in the crisis, told me:

The problems we have had recently have taken their toll. This situation with Natasha has absolutely floored me. It all began when she said she didn’t believe Armageddon’s coming. We arranged for the elders from the congregation to come and talk to her, and since then, things went from bad to worse. She’s gone living with her boyfriend now which obviously we don’t approve of. She’s even said that she’s prepared to get married in a Catholic church and the thoughts of that just smashes my mind to bits! I mean, there’s no way we’d be able to go the wedding … I’ve felt at times like I’ve been going demented. I’ve even considered going and speaking to a psychologist. I got books from the library on how to deal with teenagers. I’ve gone wrong somewhere! I feel like I’ve bent over backwards to show her loving kindness and I’ve kept getting slapped down. I find it very hard to talk about. Our theory is that it’s the devil turning people away from doing what’s right.

This whole family scenario warrants consideration for a number of reasons. Here, we have a teenager who does not only break away from the Watch Tower community, but falls pregnant by and cohabits with someone who does not uphold its tenets – a bitter pill indeed for her parents to swallow. Natasha’s behaviour epitomises everything the Witnesses deplore. Her family life from start to finish shows how, even compared with other world-renouncing sectarians, the Witnesses have no mechanism for dealing with children who break the movement’s ascetic rules. Though there are many wilful teenagers in the world, those who have grown up in a world-renouncing movement offend their parents in a very different way than those who have not. The austerity of Watch Tower tenets allows little scope for children to embrace teenage culture without being considered at risk.  To those who do not understand the Witnesses’ worldview, this ‘risk’ has been constructed (and exaggerated) by a group of religious fundamentalists whose beliefs make it impossible for teenagers to experience normal adolescence. From this point of view, rebellion is more about unrealistic parental expectations than serious defiance.

As far as the movement itself is concerned, second generation defectors are not treated with anything like the same contempt as Witnesses who are disfellowshipped. Rather, Watch Tower literature appeals to parents to accept their ‘prodigal’ child’s decision to leave the community and to wait in hope for his/her return. The Watchtower (the movement’s most widely circulated magazine) periodically features stories of young people who defect from the truth and who return at some later stage. Defectors are depicted as frivolous, impressionable people who have taken leave of their senses, while those who are reinstated are portrayed as having learned a hard lesson in discernment. These stories are often accompanied by personal testimonies of ex-members who reflect on how their craving for excitement led them into lives of debauchery, but how, by virtue of their former wisdom, they saw the error of their ways and returned remorsefully to the fold. Parents, on the other hand, are presented as God-fearing people for whom their child’s departure is a devastating blow that affects them in much the same way as bereavement. It is not uncommon for parents to adopt a kamikaze approach to their child’s obstinacy by calling on the support of other members as well as congregational officials. Elders and relatives use Watch Tower aids, particularly tracts that contain biblical references, in an attempt to steer the offender back on course – a strategy that rarely produces success with those who feel they have had more than their fair share of indoctrination. Second generation Witnesses who do break away from the community usually manage to establish sufficient relations with the outside world to compensate for loss of contact with devotees. These defectors are likely to have formed close friendships with non-Witnesses at school or, like Natasha, they may be dating an unbelieving partner. Unlike many of their older relatives, and probably even their parents, they have not entered the movement as enthusiastic converts (see Holden 2002). These are youngsters whose defiant behaviour enables them to see that the outside world, for all its shortfalls, offers an alternative way of life.

Conclusion

The evidence presented in this paper suggests that children who violate Watch Tower principles are children who are struggling to express their frustration with authority. Whatever one might think about the Witnesses’ weltanschauung, few would deny that rebels are courageous individuals. The testimonies presented in this paper are of young people who dare to express their independence of thought; people who share with us their stories of what sympathetic onlookers would see as a recoil from an oppressive regime. But it is also clear that relationships are as volatile in Witness households as any other, especially where dissident children are at loggerheads with parents. While levels of parental discipline vary, the effective socialisation of second generation members is crucial if the movement is to continue to recruit. As far as parents are concerned, children who transgress ascetic boundaries cavort with the devil and thus lose the impetus to bequeath the movement’s sacred legacy to subsequent generations.

The strict milieu into which the Witnesses socialise their children can be seen as a means, conscious or subconscious, of deflecting the perceived problems of a modern world.  While the rest of humanity struggles with the ambiguities that the twenty-first century presents, the Witnesses are able to avert these problems through the provision of a protective community. The difficulties in constructing a meaningful identity in a dislocated world are made easier in totalitarian communities.  This option denies all ambiguity and releases the individual from what sociologist Peter Berger describes as ‘the terror of chaos’ (Berger 1977:109).  The Witnesses’ relentless adherence to biblical literalism poses a serious challenge to the claim that as societies move towards secularisation, religious movements may adopt a ‘this-worldly’ orientation. To the disappointment of the children I have quoted and many others like them, there is little or no evidence that this was happening in their own religion.12 Parents continue to use anachronistic language when bemoaning the current state of the world, and their persistent resistance to ecumenicalism shows that they are as determined as ever to prevent external forces, sacred or secular, from invading their rituals and beliefs. The movement’s exclusivity is a powerful armoury for protecting its children from the moral dangers of a pluralistic and atomised society.

By offering a glimpse into the lives of Witness children, I have highlighted some of the general dilemmas that the modern world poses for the movement at both macro and micro levels. The available evidence exposes all the difficulties of belonging to a movement that espouses heterodox beliefs at the beginning of the twenty-first century. There is little reason to think that the Witnesses will become more liberal as the new millennium evolves. For all its conservatism, orthodox Christianity is better equipped than the Watch Tower community to respond to these changes, particularly where children are concerned. Catholic, Anglican and other church leaders are acutely aware of the difficulties they face in encouraging young people into their parishes, and most recognise that teenage culture has changed remarkably over the past few decades. At a time when mainstream churches have begun to provide drop- in centres for drug users, temporary accommodation for homeless adolescents, pastoral support for unmarried mothers, help lines for gays and lesbians, health advisory clinics for pregnant schoolgirls and a whole host of confidential counselling services for young people living on the margins of society, the Witnesses hold fast to a monosemic theology that they insist holds good for all people and for all time. As the world becomes increasingly fragmented, the Watch Tower movement shows little sign of relaxing either its fundamentalist doctrines or its demand for absolute loyalty. Its greatest challenge is to prevent the enemy without from becoming the enemy within.

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Endnotes

1The Witnesses always use the name Jehovah from the Hebrew translation Yahweh when referring to God. They regard this as a scriptural requisite. Armageddon is Jehovah’s victory over Satan at the end of time.

2 This represents the ‘peak’ figure. The ‘average’ figure for 2000 was 120,592.

3 This is based on a projected growth rate of 4 per cent.

4 For example, children who are reared in families in which only one parent is a member of the movement generally attend fewer meetings and spend less time in ministerial activities than children who are not.

5 At present, there is also a section for children entitled Young People Ask … in the movement’s magazine Awake!

6 Since so few adult Witnesses are employed in professional occupations, their failure to encourage their children to remain in education beyond the statutory leaving age corresponds with lower socio-economic groups in general.

7 One young Witness explained how her parents disapproved of her studying sociology at school because it addressed ‘worldly’ issues.

8 The movement’s objection to religious worship in schools means that most Witness parents select non-denominational state education for their children.

9 Attitudes towards school sex education programmes vary among Witness parents. While few object to the teaching of human reproduction and pregnancy in biology classes, most regard sex education as a matter for the family and exercise their legal right to withdraw their children from classes that include discussions of birth control and sexually transmitted diseases.

10 Adultery and sexual relations outside marriage are among the most common reasons for disfellowship.

11 Moreover, the American National Survey of Religious Identification found in the early

1990s that American Witnesses are more likely than other members of the general population to be married and to have large families. Around one third of married Witnesses have four or more children.

12 On the other hand, the fact that the Witnesses have steadily gained recruits does not necessarily mean that religious thinking, practice and institutions are losing social significance

(Wilson 1966:xiv). It could be that heterodox religious movements are able to resist secularising influences and prosper at a time when orthodox Christianity has weakened.

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  1. TINA MARIE CYPRAIN_LENOIR
    February 11th, 2011 at 19:53 | #1

    I AM 29 YRS OLD A SOCIALPATH N SCZO I DONT SEE ANYTING ANYMORE BUT I HAVE BEEN PRAYING AND BLESSING N FORSITE I AM SHARING ON FACEBOOK PLZ CAN U HELP NE TO UNDERSTAND THIS BECAUSE I KNOW WHAT IT IS NUT UNTIL I GET MY MEDS THE DOCTR SUGGESTED THIS SO THAT I WONT UPSET ANYONE I LOVE… ASPA….

  2. Marie
    September 27th, 2010 at 01:10 | #2

    Bucky :
    It is very interesting I cannot find a web site like this condemning any other religion. Not that I want to, but this just shows that true christians will be persecured like Jesus said.

    Have you looked up websites on Islam or Catholicism? There are plenty of websites condemning plenty of religions. And since there are so many, persecution cannot be proof of true religion.

  3. Nelly
    September 16th, 2009 at 11:46 | #3

    I find it a little odd that JW do not associate with the military, when it is the military that gives u rights to live the way u choose. You do not honor the flag but are the first in line for government assistance when times get tough…Go figure……

  4. Nelly
    September 15th, 2009 at 10:17 | #4

    I know an active JW whos children smoke and have been charged of making and selling meth and yet this witness helps them by giving them money and pay for their bail and even houses them when they have no place to live.. She has bought cigaretts for them, her daughter married a catholic boy her children stand for the pledge of allegience in school and her drug son (whom I may add) is going to prison for meth, got a non JW pregnant out of wedlock and still is with the church. I feel she has the whole church fooled. She associates and both her and her daughter who claims she is JW rides horse and has non JW friends. Also the daughter played basketball in high school. Should they really be part of the church. Just wondering

  5. steve
    September 8th, 2009 at 19:17 | #5

    @fri
    when visiting elders visit the congergations they are put up i modest accomadations at friends homes not lavis hotels an they do not gourge themselves on mealsi never seen a visiting elder with a brand new car thats a fact

  6. Judy
    April 21st, 2007 at 18:09 | #6

    Jw’s are nice people i think, although some are kinda weird like bein too obsessed with their beliefs and really its affecting their behavior.

    As a youth, Jw’s advices regarding youth concerns are somehow beneficial, and the watch tower publishes their magazines in an up to date manner like they got a open view on todays world and is tryin to help JW or non JW youths to stay morally upright.

    well, everyone has an option to or not to take advices, ( so its up to you, if ur not interested, then go to bed now )

  7. Anonymous
    March 25th, 2007 at 22:45 | #7

    to anonymous ID 195542, can I just pee on you instead??

  8. Anonymous
    March 25th, 2007 at 21:39 | #8

    PUKE ME WITH POWER!

  9. luke
    March 24th, 2007 at 03:12 | #9

    I’m not even a JW, but you comment on everything. Get a life, man. Your an athiest, so what do you care? This is for discussion…not stupid, rude, retarded comments.

  10. Bill
    March 17th, 2007 at 06:45 | #10

    Sure, they’re strict, but if people stop nagging about how strict they really are maybe they could see JWs have pretty good teachings. What other religion shows the truth about hell? Many other religions know that hell is not a place where people burn, but, yet, many pastors and whatnot still tell their chuch that so they will have fear. Now, that is mind control.

  11. D111115
    December 28th, 2006 at 18:37 | #11

    All the information may in fact be from God’s word, but there are two serious flaws. First, the Watchtower Society often takes a snippet of a Scripture and twists it to fit a rule that they wish to make. True, it comes from God’s word, but it is not what God’s word is supposed to say.

    The second problem comes from the Bible itself. It was written for people that could not think for themselves. The purpose was to allow these ones to learn to think on their own. That explains why there are so many parables, and it helps explain all the miracles in the Bible. Then Paul innocently takes it the wrong way, which creates mysticism at the source. The Catholic Church further butchered it by cherry-picking the books that they could use. Finally Jehovah’s Witlesses tamper with it some more to make it fit THEIR purposes. Otherwise, why would a lazy bum who swindles his brother’s birthright away from his brother be viewed as righteous? Or a king that kills tens of thousands of Philistines or a leader who walks in and destroys the nation of Canaan, in both cases just because they were creating value? Is this the Bible YOU want to follow?

  12. James NON-JW
    December 2nd, 2006 at 03:41 | #12

    Hey Bucky, despite the person’s name listed above, his commentary was re-printed with permission from the webmaster of this site (please read the last entry after the story). This does not allow you to broadcast his email address, which I’m sure you acquired from a web search of Lancaster U. Privacy laws do not condone nor excuse cockiness & stupidity.

  13. Bucky
    December 2nd, 2006 at 01:05 | #13

    Correction – the e-mail is draholden@soci.fsnet.co.uk.Sorry

  14. Bucky
    December 2nd, 2006 at 00:59 | #14

    Why not ask Dr Holden if he has done or is going to do such an extensive study of other religions? His e-mail address is draholden@soci.fsnet.com.uk.
    Just wondering why all the world seem to hate worshipers who worship other than theirselves. Your thoughts.

  15. James NON-JW
    December 2nd, 2006 at 00:47 | #15

    zzzzz…oh look it’s another from Mr. Ignorant!

  16. Bucky
    December 2nd, 2006 at 00:40 | #16

    It is very interesting I cannot find a web site like this condemning any other religion. Not that I want to, but this just shows that true christians will be persecured like Jesus said.

  17. Jones
    September 12th, 2006 at 19:45 | #17

    Salsaboy,
    Are you still visiting this website? If so I would like to ask you a few questions.

  18. Anonymous
    September 9th, 2006 at 07:47 | #18

    I really hope you take a real good look and make a researched decision, it must be a real struggle. I have seen my husband struggle, still struggles with being raised as a JW, father is an elder and mother is a regular pioneer. He was forced into babtism at 18 rebelled the same night, shortly one daycame home with a plane to ticket to another province. His addiction to drugs began, after one of his attempted suicides he was put on a plan back to where his parents were let’s just say the situation sure gets compicated (now 33 years old) only to find out after beign DF’d for smoking at age 25, and unable to attend his sisters wedding and all the rest of it he wasn’t actually a babtized witness because of the circumstances surrounding it and in the same breath was told not share this info with other JWs. He still continues to battle his addiction to now shooting cocaine and morphine to numb whatever feelings he has in left inside and the pain continues where one night he contracted hep c and found out he had this virus while in rehab another attempt at rehab-the 4th one, have to give him credit for not giving up. It turned out the one night while on a drug binge his drug dealer was also raised a JW who also contracted hep C and also has a child but a now ex-wife. He is not the only son with an addiction so does his brother, cocaine as well not as extreme, and of course is DF’d after the breakdown of his marriage. There is another sibling in this family, she is a regular JW, goes to meetings etc. she is a decent person has lived a clean life, however, her husband also a JW is a steroid junky who is in and out of the home treating her horribly. That is one example of a family that I am involved with personally, I have heard other stories from others. Please make the decision, do your research-it’s not black and white. I share this story hoping more lives will have less pain.

  19. Markus
    September 8th, 2006 at 20:48 | #19

    Got a shock visiting my very old Grandparents,

    Their old flat was dusty and I could not help but see the brightly coloured publications in a bookshelf in their lounge. We were having a family meeting to decide the fate of these folks.
    Turns out they downgraded their pensions as they always felt it was unnecessary. Fortunately my family and I are pretty well off, and will take care of the old folk. But I was shocked to see the conditions they were living in.
    I only saw them a couple of times in the last few years, you know weddings, funerals etc. I had not been to their place in years.
    Turns out they stopped studying some time ago. It would have taken a very long suffering witness to put up with these 2 old folk. One faithful brother still picks them up for the Sunday morning talk, which is admirable.

    I kept wondering what if this very old faithful couple did not have any family? How long would it be before the were kicked out of their flat. What then? Would the same people that convinced them their pensions were not needed, look after them? Unlikely.

    When I shake my Pa’s hand I can still see in his blue eyes he still thinks I am some kind of anti-Christ.

    When the occasional JW strays onto this site, and claims they are only trying to save people, I need to double my daily dose of chill pills.

  20. sdowd
    January 31st, 2006 at 01:17 | #20

    Hi salsaboy,
    i found what you said interesting as i’m presently studying eligions and theology at university, which is what the writer of this article lectures in. I would say he lays out his hypothesis very clearly at the beginning of the article. He is not anti-JW but studying it as a system, JW’s weltanschauung is fascinating. If he’s studying is sociologically then he is trying to keep outside of vehement anti a belief polemic. it’s just another way of studying a system of belief. And if the system is as totalitarian as he has claimed, then wouldn’t u call someone who rebelled courageous? As we called the people who went against other totalitarian systems courageous?
    And from being in and out of evangelical churches, there is not pressure brought upon you when you’re a teenager as there is in an assembly hall i recently had to observe. And in the evangelical church debate between members is consistently encouraged, i even got told recently in a sermon God may sometimes say different things to people.
    Also as a Hebrew student what do you think of the JWs continuing mispronunciation of the divine name YNWH?

  21. James NON-JW
    January 6th, 2006 at 21:44 | #21

    Greetings Anonymous and I have some ideas for your message/questions.
    First of all, you are not as obligated as a lot of the JW’s, since you aren’t baptized.
    Secondly, you should explain to those studying with you that you do not truly feel that this is the right religion. Of course the Witnesses will be all over you like a fat kid on a candy bar trying to convince you otherwise, however there are many things you can tell them, if you wish to sever ties in a nice way. Otherwise, you could tell them all to get lost and indicate through writing a letter to the congregation which would clearly state that you wish not to be involved at all and ask that they respect your wishes.
    Please take the time to read of this religion’s true history, there are excellent non-condescending literature written regarding this faith and all of it’s false prophecy, true history, corruption, etc. I suggest you read Ray Franz’s (ex-Governing Body Member) book entitled “Crisis of Conscience”, which is easily available through Amazon & some bookstores. It will not only give you the story of JW’s, it has an extremely revealing account of what goes on at the WTS. His material is all backed up & proven fact, so I highly recommend it. You could also read M. James Penton’s book “Apocalypse Delayed”, which gives the true story of JW’s and is very well-researched.
    Despite efforts to explain to JW’s your convictions, they are all brainwashed into thinking that it is impossible & crazy to think any other way than what the WTS tells them.
    I was involved for many years, however managed to leave & have not regretted the decision one little bit. This next part is what I posted on another story, however it has some bearing on what you are going through. Please do not hesitate to contact me or create another posting here if you have any other questions or comments.
    From another story:
    When many people leave this organization, they feel lost or unwanted by the general population, therefore never allowing themselves to ever get comfortable with others, or even feel a place among them. A lot of this is because of the need to be deprogrammed after hearing the WTS constantly. This has been a minor issue for me, as I have an outgoing personality that likes to have fun, however am serious when I need to be, and do not sensationalize or over-complicate my life like many JW’s I’ve met. My dependancy is not on some earthly organization that utilizes the exact same strategies of most cults to lure people in and then apply their so-called well-intentioned machinations on them. In my case, I believe that despite following along and doing all of the religion’s duties, I didn’t really ever succumb to their brainwashing techniques. I know that I am much stronger than that.
    My firm belief is that one of mankind’s biggest mistakes was organized religion, as it has always been riddled with greed, stupidity, self-importance, false prophecy, etc. I believe personally in spirituality, regular praying, belief in the Lord & spending time reflecting on what God has given me & my family. To view everything with WTS colored glasses however, would be the wrong approach. In all the years I was involved with this religion and then comparing it to the so-called worldly realm, I absolutely met way more people in the faith who were flaky, bizarre, extremely organizational dependant, psychologically unstable and shallow or just plain wierd. This is not to say that I didn’t know some lovely people or make friends, far from it. The biggest difference that I witnessed first hand however, was the state of mind within friendships. The mentality was one of selling out a friend at a moment’s notice if they perceived something wrong or whatever. I am thankful that didn’t happen directly to me, however the irresponsibilty, immaturity & shallow thinking of some is such a shame.
    My job has me dealing with the public on a one-on-one basis all the time, so I develop friendships with some, depending on similar interests of course. This has allowed me the ability to innerwardly compare the friendships with these people versus the organization.
    I don’t have an axe to grind with the people from the faith, even if some stabbed myself or others I know in the back. My issue is I would love my family to wake up and see that all the baloney they have been fighting is a result of this religion. God did give all his people the freedom to think for themselves, not assign our individuality to some earthly organization that professes to speak for God. Just because they say they speak the truth, doesn’t mean they do. As I stated to my family who are clueless when it comes to these issues, since the almighty WTS doesn’t let them know, I asked them “If this is the correct religion, which you are dogmatically shoving down my throat, perhaps you could tell me why I would want to be part of a religion that has the following issues among others:
    1. Constant false prophecy – never one thing stated came true…hello?
    2. Pedophilia – running rampant throughout the religion and it is more important to protect the image of the religion than the children (don’t waste your time trying to justify any actions in this area, you wouldn’t want to know what I would do to these people if empowered to do so/their behavior is disgusting).
    3. WTS involvement with the UN – if this has to be spelled out, well I’ll just give up now.
    4. Hypocrisy – Blantant lying to the rank & file (apparently the WTS sees new light a lot), guilty of telling it’s members one thing & doing the exact same themselves.
    5. Bloodguilty – Groverning Body is guilty of terrible sins, such as allowing bribery in Mexico (research it if you don’t know), changing their minds on issues that many died for and received nothing from this clown operation.

    Well, I could easily go on, however after your comments above, you may have already jumped off the deep end like so many JW’s I meet, who clam up & get all defensive, since they want to defend their organization, yet factually can’t since the points above are all true. I know personally, when I was in the religion, I had people ask me when at their door some of these questions. Besides, if the WTS hasn’t instructed the rank & file how to address these points and others, they won’t know how to answer them.

    In your case if you really feel that this is the correct religion, knowing that Christ would give his full recommendation to it should he arrive today, then knock yourself out. However I know after lots of independant research that this isn’t the case. Think about what God & Christ would do to any outfit guilty of these & other actrocites stated above. The one thing that does irritate me, are the Witnesses who can’t listen even for one second to another side of the story, after all ignorance is bliss correct? The WTS has brainwashed them into thinking that any contradiction or sometimes even pointed questions are apostatsy. It’s time to re-discover your individuality and think for yourself. You can live & think without the all-controlling WTS!
    Whatever you decide to do with your life, I sincerely wish you the best and hope that you will see that Christ’s sacrifice was made for all mankind, not just one organization.
    One more to a person similar to you:
    There are many of us who have a hard time adjusting after leaving the cult/WTS. This is a natural progression, please do not give up. God loves all his children, he doesn’t just love one organization or people who are self-righteous. It’s amazing that the Lord will love everyone equally, however the WTS teaches other doctrine. Remember to them only JW’s will be saved. What I find rather amusing & so narrow-minded, is this constant belief that it all revolves around them. It is a selfish human tendency to see history making events & the future at the start of our own lives. Millenniumism has been preached in just about every century since Christ left, what makes things different now? Is it the WTS telling us so because of their self-appointed scholarly knowledge? Hmm, I don’t think so. After all, why would I believe the prophecies of a religion when every statement/prophecy so far has been wrong?
    Yes, it is easy for the WTS to call everyone an apostate, however when does accountability come into play? Are we to blindly believe all that is told to us, just because they say so? I now test everything of a serious matter expressed to me, I don’t just jump into it with reckless abondon, or whatever. It’s your life, your’s to control and it’s too short.
    I was brought up in this religion, however I grew a brain, something the WTS doesn’t like at all, henceforth their advice to followers not to partake in higher learning.
    I learned a long time ago that the WTS almost always has an ulterior motive, built around their success. Name one time they helped any of the rank & file when they were fananically destitude, as they sold everything to embrace the WTS convincing them that the end was near. My own family ran into big-time financial problems years ago and got minimal if any help within their KH. This is exactly what I saw when I was there, it was all to look good, totally superficial activity designed to make everyone think that your brothers & sisters are there to care, however they are actually only paying lip service to this.
    Believe it or not, genuine caring & loving people truly do exist outside this religion, don’t be fooled by their pseudo spiritual paradise & mumbo jumbo. Now that I mention this, I am hard pressed as of late to find many Witnesses who actually look happy, considering the illustrious paradise they are apparently living in.
    I have numerous friendships, however I do not rely on them totally. You need to develop your love of God & rely on yourself, by being self-sufficient. Friendships are a nice bonus, however you can have a relationship with the Lord without the need of an earthly organization. The Lord will always be there to help, without extra baggage associated with the JW outfit.

    My interest is to have JW’s and others see the value in spirituality and not be misled by any person or group bent on destroying people’s freedom.
    God bless, keep in touch and Happy New Year.

  22. Anonymous
    January 6th, 2006 at 01:53 | #22

    Finally, somebody has managed to put into words the issues that have been tormenting me for months!. I am not a baptized witness but have been doing a study for a couple of years with them and dragging myself to meetings which drone on and on about the same thing, “Armeggedon is coming we must decide what side of the fence we are on” and “watch out for Satan the bird catcher” etc etc.

    The other witnesses I have met are lovely and I really believed it was the truth, until I went to a big convention/assembly. I expected an overwhelming sense of unity and love and had looked forward to going. Instead I felt it was an endurance and couldn’t wait for it to end and the speaker to stop loving the sound of his own voice, u know, going on about the increases in all the countries and peoples experiences and then the programmed clapping which we all do. That was the start of my discouragement, not any worldly influence.

    Then continuing my study I have learned more and more discouraging things, being told that if the great tribulation happens 2moz all my loved ones won’t make the resurrection hope,that did not go down well, and whose decided that, the”faithful and discreet slave” the WTS, so they think they can read peoples hearts and decide whose earned righteousness in Gods eyes. Sure, just like they can predict when the system was going to end and when the old faithful ones were to be resurrected(back to Rutherfords £25,000 mansion in the 1920’s). I was sure from what i had learnt that was for God to decide. Also finding information that suggests Charles T Russell was possibly a Mason suggests to me a big conspiracy. Obviously this might be Satan trying to blind me but how will I ever know?? Is it God trying to lead me away from Satans people or vice versa!

    Now so much has been thrown into question what I need to know now is there any way of breaking free??? I actually really care about the ones I have got to know but am terrified of telling them how i feel. It is like having overly proud expectant parents that you are scared of disappointing. But I can’t help feeling that how can an organization apparently led by Holy Spirit make such huge cock ups in their predictions, isn’t that false Prophesying??
    Well I am still expected to go out on the ministry which I am desperate to stop. I still believe in God and Jesus so I think I need to pray for strengh and guidance. They will b in my prayers to as they really don’t realise what they are involved in and in their hearts they are trying to do the right thing. It is the people at the top(GB and FDS) who are corrupt and brainwashing these poor unsuspecting people.

    If anyone has any advice on how to escape, pls let me know!

  23. rel
    December 28th, 2005 at 13:35 | #23

    To, Mark Harrison: If the question was directed to me, I will answer it with a question. If you think that Jw’s are so right, why not follow what they teach and stop coming to the so called “apostate websites”?

  24. mark harrison
    December 28th, 2005 at 04:40 | #24

    can i ask you a simply Q ? if you think thant the JWs are so wrong why undermine there belive ?

  25. rel
    December 17th, 2005 at 13:51 | #25

    Yes, salsaboy you are very much indoctrinated, therefore I wont waste much time with you.
    You have been eating hamburger for so long that if I put a nice juicy steak in front of you, you will say burger is much better.

    The pure reality is you sell magazines for the WT. If you believe the bible to be true —2Tim 3: 16 All Scripture is inspired of God and beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness, 17 that the man of God may”—you would be using only the bible, unfortunately you don’t.
    WT knows that the magazine business is a very profitable one, believe it or not the Society rakes in around a billion dollars a year on the magazine business.

    I found it fascinating as you go on to mention and I quoted what you wrote: (“the book of Ron Rhodes which I am presently studying introduce his book with “9 out of 10 Christians do not know how to answer a JW”.) Have you gotten to the part that says: (“In 1 Corinthians 10:14 we read, “Therefore, my dear friends, flee from idolatry.” The Jehovah’s Witnesses argue that the command against idolatry in this verse represents a command not to wear a cross. To wear a cross, they say, is a form of idolatry. It is certainly true that Christians must avoid idolatry, but wearing a cross is NOT a form of idolatry.”)

    Have you also read the part that says: (“According to 2 John 10, we are not to receive into our homes or even greet anyone who comes to us and does not believe that Christ is come in the flesh. How does this apply to cultists? Should we turn them away? ….. this verse does not prohibit Christians from allowing cultists into the home for evangelistic purposes. When a Jehovah’s Witness or a Mormon shows up on the doorstep, for example, the Christian should feel free to invite him or her into the living room in order to witness to them.”)
    Very fascinating how Rod Rhodes goes as far as labeling JW’s a cult. I guess you have not come to that part of the book yet.

    There are much better books out there for you to read such as, “crisis of conscious?” This book is worth of your time.

  26. salsaboy
    December 17th, 2005 at 06:18 | #26

    Hi Rel,

    I am not sure if your comments were intended for me, but I assume they were based on the posting date. If not I apologize to take it as such. For discussion purposes however I will assume they are. I also apologize that my message eventually became so long.

    It is not my intention to start a theological discussion, however you can imagine that I would not take an informed decision on the matter I mentioned in my earlier post before thourough arguments and consideration. But just for discusion purposes I remind you that (from your point of view) I am still indoctrinated.

    All the information you posted is not new to me. I have read essentially the same thing duplicated on many sites. But thank you for taking the time for such an extensive reasoning on the subject. I repeat what I said in my earlier mail, what i noticed on the net is that criterias are not applied consistently on JW same as on other denominations or group of Christians which creates suspicion in credibility. All my following comments are in that spirit.

    With regard to the WT article of 1995 where you commented that “the Society finally admitted that this application was wrong…..” Well, I was present at that study and just looked it up again and I must comment that this “admission”is not as revolutionary and change of meaning as you implied in your comments. But I wish not to comment further, let all interested one read it for themselves while I want to comment only on your conclusion “So, the parable shows that there would be no such thing as one group of true Christians separated from all other groups of false Christians.” Well, frankly this parable does not show anything in relation to that PARTICULAR subject. Your explanation is a legitimate possibility and WTS equially as well, since all this parable show is that their will be true and false Christians (at least on this we agree), not specifying whether individually or in group form. So we can disregard this section as far as I am concerned.

    “This doctrinal change is yet another illustration of how transient the so-called “truth” of the Watch Tower Society often is!” Of course this is one of the main accusations against JW. My whole quest started when discussing with a non-JW Christian who became very dear to me. I was accused that I wished to defend my position at all cost (which is not true by the way) while any idea she had and which was proven wrong would go out. The world turned around. When other Christians grows and let former ideas behind due to spiritual growth this is the HS working, when the WTS (a JW) does the same it is the end of the world. Furthermore, I have read many Church Historians and the Apostolic Fathers etc (more non-JW Christians and JW Christians should do this!). Just to remind you, what is now understood for centuries as you put it, has actually developed during the history of the Church. At the early councils some ideas of Church “main players” were rejected while others accepted (e.g. Origin etc.). At occasion other councils again reversed earlier ones and set new Catholich (Universal) standards. What I am saying: SAME acusation against a relatively new movement like JW (and of course you have new potential material here) can be brought against the Early Church, but that does not make them false, does it?.. even though the Catholic Church official position is that it is the only true Universal Church. Even more….later when Luther protested and reformed the Roman Catholic Church into Protestantism (say, now all Christians covered), he also changed the whole approach towards salvation (T.U.L.I.P). Again this is not a sign of falsehood, is it? Frankly I am not very impressed by this change of doctrine argument other than the legitimacy of the doctrines themselves.

    On your comments in relation to the “marks of true religion” as the JW jargon puts it, I have to give you credit that certain impresions are given which are not completely right which is especially so for one who was raised a JW and was never really exposed to the Christian world out there, like myself. This was brought to my attention earlier and therefore I bought the Handbook of Denominations in the USA of F. Mead and S. Hill. Having said the foregoing I need to balance this with two comments though.
    1) the WTS never said that each of the things you mentioned individually (as you gave the impresion) would mark it as true group (from the premise that group is a posibility for discusion sake) but the package or combination would.
    2) Even though many other Christian denominations have their missionary work as you noted, and while it all looks good on paper, the above mentioned book said only on the section of JW: “The JW are among the most zealous religeous bodies in term of promoting their beliefs”. “This missionary activity has made JW one of the most widely known (although not widely understood) churches in the U.S.”
    And for all these activities from other religions, the book of Ron Rhodes which I am presently studying introduce his book with “9 out of 10 Christians do not know how to answer a JW”. And in its foreword “There I saw virtually hundreds of WT evangelists who were willing to do for the skin of the truth stuffed with a lie what Christians should be willing to do for the truth”.
    In my own experience (living in the West, not in US) if I was not raised a JW I do not think I would know of the word of God since I do not remember having ANYONE bringing any message in whatever form to me while I remember JW have call on my door not knowing I was living there, I was also several times approached in the street. I am not saying anything like, oh so this make them true Christians, what I am saying is…of course I do not know if I would have listened, but where are all those preaching/missionary/teaching activities in (my) real life….? (If I have not heard from JW I would not have been on this site in the first place).

    By the way, you said that JW attracted righteous and wicked people. I assume you mean that just like in other Christian denominations there are “wheat” and “weeds” there. Well, for this same purpose, I have also studied Protestant “Systematic Theology” by Wayne Grudem lately and just for you to know I inform you that in there JW as a whole is given as an example of a false religion (together with +/- 50% of Catholics based on faith-works criteria-as well as others by the way). Their goes your individualgroup interpretation at least as far as “Systematic Theology” is concerned.

    I understand that your issue is with the WTS and it’s arrogant position that it has monopoly on the truth. As far as I am concerned you can continue to do so, however in my quest I am interested in applying criterias (and I repeat) EQUALLY and CONSISTENTLY to all and not give the impresion that JW are alone in this position. In my study of Sytematic Theology it was reminded that the Roman Catholic Church in its official charter hold the view that it is the ONLY true church. Luther holded the view that the RCH “because they departed from the true preaching of the gospel, their visible organization was NOT the true church”. And that within Protestantism “many liberal Protestant churhes ARE in fact false churches today”. Definately a group approach, by the way. If you critize JW, fair enought, since this is a anti-JW site, no problem, but just to hold things in prespective, this is not a unique JW position. Again lets be consistent in applying criterias. If not, my Red Alert Radar goes on.

    Frankly, I am not very interested in this particular issue but just reacted on your comments. My interest is more in the correctness of doctrines (changed or unchanged) and for this purpose I have the book of Ron Rhodes which I am doing my best to answer the questions posed. So far, since I am not trough yet, a few are though provoking and difficult to answer but most are not (so far!).

    Again thank you for your comments and I apologize again for the long message it became while writing.

  27. Rel
    December 16th, 2005 at 19:30 | #27

    “WHO ARE THE TRUE CHRISTIANS?”
    Which of the many thousands of Christian groups is authentically Christian?
    This question is based on the misconception that there must be one group of true Christians separated from all other false groups. Is this what the Bible says?
    The answer is given by Jesus himself in his parable of the wheat and the weeds (Matt. 13:24-30, 36-43). As this parable shows, Jesus Christ sowed the “fine seed”–the sons of the kingdom (verse 38). He knew, however, that “the enemy” (the devil) would oversow “weeds”–the sons of the wicked one–in among the “wheat” in the “field”, (= the world, verse 38). But He would not allow his servants to collect the weeds, because “while collecting the weeds, you uproot the wheat with them. Let both grow together until the harvest.” (Verses 29, 30)
    So, the parable shows that there would be no such thing as one group of true Christians separated from all other groups of false Christians. There would only be true and false individual Christians. True and false Christians would all exist together in the same world of Christians, mixed like wheat and weeds in the same field.
    Notice that it was at the “harvest” (= at the “conclusion of a system of things”, verse 39) that the angels–not Christ’s servants or followers–would remove the “weeds” from “the kingdom” (= the world of Christians) and gather “the wheat” into Christ’s “storehouse.” (Verses 40-43, 30)
    For over seventy years the Watch Tower Society has taught that since 1919 the Jehovah’s Witnesses, under the supervision of angels, by their witnessing work have been separating the “wheat” from the “weeds”, or the “sheep” from the “goats”, to use the language of another, related parable. (Matt. 25:31-46) But in 1995, in the Watchtower of October 15, 1995, pages 22 and 23, the Society finally admitted that this application was wrong, explaining that the separating of the “sheep” from the “goats” will not take place until the judgement at Christ’s future coming! Actually, this is how most Christians have understood these parables throughout the centuries.
    This doctrinal change is yet another illustration of how transient the so-called “truth” of the Watch Tower Society often is! Few Jehovah’s Witnesses seem to have grasped the far-reaching consequences of this reinterpretation.
    Not only has the Watchtower organization been collecting all kinds of people into its organization, both righteous and wicked. It has also been ousting out all kinds of people, both righteous and wicked, contrary to the warning of the Master in the parable (verse 29). It has done this, not just by disfellowshiping people for reasons that often have been very arbitrary, but also by rejecting all the other Christians outside of their organization and claiming to be the only true Christian group on earth. In this way they have ignored the command of the Master: “Let both grow together until the harvest.” For this reason alone the Watchtower organization cannot claim to be the one true and authentically Christian
    group on earth today. THERE IS NO SUCH GROUP.
    To “prove” that the Watchtower organization is the only true Christian organization on earth today, it claims that, “Of all those who claim to be Christian, only Jehovah’s Witnesses take the preaching of the good news seriously.” (The Watchtower, January 1, 1988, page 20) This statement primarily refers to their door-to-door activity. But does the use of this specific preaching method prove that this is the only true Christian organization, while other groups who use other methods to reach people with their message are not Christians?
    The fact is that quite a number of Christian groups are growing in number, many of them even much faster than Jehovah’s Witnesses. The Watchtower publications have given its readers the impression that other Christian denominations and sects are declining in numbers, that the “waters” of “Babylon the Great” is “drying up.” (Rev. 16:12 and 17:15) But this impression is false. Although it is true that the majority of the Christian denominations have been declining in the Western countries (and this also holds true of Jehovah’s Witnesses today in many Western countries), there has been a tremendous increase of Christians in the world as a whole in this century.
    This increase has mainly occurred in the third world. As explained by David D. Barrett, editor of the World Christian Encyclopedia (1982), Christianity has become the most extensive and universal religion on earth in this century. About 25,000 Christian missionaries are being sent out to various countries every year. (Only 0.4 percent of these are Jehovah’s Witnesses!) The above-mentioned encyclopedia shows that at the beginning of our century there were only 50,000 Protestants in Latin America. In 1980 there were 20 million, and that number was estimated to grow to 100 million by the year 2000. In Africa there were about 10 million Christians in 1900. In 1980’s the number had increased to over 200 million–40 percent of the population of the continent! There have been similar increases in many parts of Asia. In South Korea, for example, there were hardly any Christians at all hundred years ago. Today about 35 percent of its population are Christians.
    One of the fastest growing Christian groups is the Pentecostal movement (Assemblies of God). In about the same period as the Witnesses have increased from 0 to 5 millions, the Pentecostals have grown from 0 to 420 millions! This increase has occurred in all parts of the world, also in many parts of the Western world. Of the nearly six billion people on earth
    today, about one third are Christians.
    Another argument used by the Watchtower organization to “prove” that it is the only true Christian organization is that Jehovah’s Witnesses refuse to kill people in war. This is commendable, of course. But their standpoint is in no way unique, and this is particularly true since 1996, when the Watchtower organization decided that alternative service is acceptable.
    (The Watchtower, May 1, 1996.) A number of sects and denominations are opposed to war, for example, the SDA Church, the Mennonites, the Quakers, the Christadelphians, and various Church of God groups. But more importantly, there are millions of INDIVIDUAL Christians around the world who are opposed to war and who would refuse to kill other people in war. They have taken this position, not because they have been told so by a religious authority, but because of their own decision.
    Another feature often pointed to in the Watchtower publications is that Jehovah’s Witnesses have been persecuted and sometimes even been killed in some countries. This is true, of course. Perhaps the most extensive persecution of the Witnesses in the 20th century was that of the Nazi regime in Germany a generation ago, when 2,000 Witnesses were sent to concentration camps, 203 of which were executed and over 600 others died in prison due to diseases, undernourishment, and other causes. (The 1974 Yearbook of Jehovah’s Witnesses, page 212.)
    But Jehovah’s Witnesses are not the only group that has been persecuted in this century. Totalitarian countries have often persecuted various groups of Christians. In the former Sovjet Union most and sometimes all Christian groups were forbidden and persecuted, and periodically thousands of Christians were killed in campaigns aimed at rooting out religion. On January 27, 1996, Vladimir Naumov, chief of the Russian commission for the restoration of victims of political oppression, revealed that half a million priests had been persecuted by the Sovjet State, over 200,000 of which were killed during the Stalin epoch! That is thousand times the number of Witnesses that were executed during the Nazi regim!
    Witnesses in the 20th century, therefore, is far from unique or exceptional. Today, cases of persecution of Jehovah’s Witnesses are rare and exceptional, as was actually admitted in The Watchtower of December 1, 1998, page 8.
    So who and where, then, are the true Christians today? Obviously the same as in every century from the time of Christ, namely, people who have accepted Jesus Christ as their Lord, Redeemer, and Teacher, and who may be found in any kind of Christian fellowship that proves to be of help in their endevour to lead a Christian life.

  28. salsaboy
    December 16th, 2005 at 19:04 | #28

    Hi,

    I am myself a JW for +/- 20 years (”recruited” by parents) and presently reading some critical material of JW in order to decide if I stay or not (I hear you all thinking, so I say it: so still indoctrinated), what I think all parties pro or con should continue to do.

    Even though I could relate to some things in this paper my comments would be:
    - PERSONALLY and as a whole while I went trhough my teenage years I did not experience these things as described in the paper (I stess: personally).
    - In my humble opinion this article is just another anti JW apologetics (which of course is perfectly allowable on this site). The reason is that I find it statistically impossible to have a discussion of whatever group without finding any possitive influence. I prefer articles that while pointing to the negative effects also balanced it with the possitive (and of course the anti argument would be that there is not any, which is in my view statistically alone, impossible). I resent that while surfing extensively I find or it is all heavenly and blessed or it is all bad. In my opinion neither is possible and therefore I read both side with high suspicion.
    - It is suspicious that only those with bad experience are quoted and and deamed the “courages ones”. The point is that for any one of these negative experiences there is also a good one and viceversa. I think they should also be included if this in essecence would be a paper on “a sociological analysys of the experiences of (the?) young JW” (even though I admit the “on socialization and rebelion” makes it a bit ambigeous, but at least the tone of the article leans towards “the young JW”).
    - While surfing other Christian sites (of course especially Evengelical ones, since they seems to be the ones that care most to publish) I found that many, if not most, items are equally applicable to them as to JW, that is if one looks at it without te anti-JW glasses on. Just as an example, I even found one with comments on a selection of movies playing and acceptability for Christians. If the paper would be titled “a sociological analysys of the experiences of (the?) young -fundamental- Christian” I would appreciate the substance more.

    The above might sound as a JW apologetic (take it as you wish), but I just venter my disatisfaction of the article as being unbalanced and not very helpful for my purposes.

  29. James
    December 12th, 2005 at 00:48 | #29

    You sound typical, telling him he should be gone, when you have your head up your butt!

  30. James
    December 11th, 2005 at 23:46 | #30

    I think it’s time to wake up, read my comment abouce.

  31. James
    December 11th, 2005 at 06:45 | #31

    Tim, it is always the same with JW’s. They believe they are the only religion that is attacked, or at least think they are the most attacked. The truth is your religion meets with oppression because of the WTS SOP. They are the first to bitterly fight in a court of law for religious freedom, however they don’t bestow that same right on their own kind. They push their agenda on everyone with the brainwashed belief that it is the only truth, therefore they don’t listen to reason or any other ideas, after all if you’re constantly told that your belief system is all that matters & are threatened constantly to not look at, let alone read any other material, what do suppose that person will think? That’s right, they only think whatever the WTS says. This is very frustrating to people you talk to, as they may have a firm conviction as well. Picture what would happen to you & the response you would receive if tomorrow you approach an elder at the local Kingdom Hall & state that you have a problem with one of the WTS doctrines or perhaps detect & have investigated the WTS’ lengthy list of hypocrisy & false prophecy? Don’t bother answering that one, we all know the answer. If I were a betting man I would give it less than 5 minutes to spark some form of outrage or emotional response without even listening to any evidence, nor will they listen to any. Sound familiar? You see ALL JW’s are continually bombarded with info on rejecting any other thought process, in other words, forget your individuality & rely on the almighty perfect WTS to figure things out for you. After all, you are in a spiritual utopia of loving members who will reach out to each other at any given time to help. Here is what I say to that, “WAKE UP!”, the dream story even though nice in many ways, is just that, a dream. I used to be a JW for at least 17 years, learned some things & respect many of the concepts, however I have found less back-stabbing, less lip service & more genuine friends in the real world. Consider what I & others see: An organization that dogmatically puts down other religions & beliefs, all the while professing the real truth to be with them. So while they are quick to point out all other people/groups/religions imperfections, they have pedophiles in their midst, re-written the definition on hypocrisy, can’t prove a single one of their doctrines, not one of their prophecies has ever come to pass, been guilty of lying, was involved with the U.N. as a NGO (until the crap hit the fan), should I go on? Sorry to put it this way, however it’s factual and can easily be proven. I don’t necessarily believe the WTS to be an evil empire, however their system like all other systems, whether it be political, religious or corporate all suffer from greed, love of money & power. The WTS is a big machine that must keep rolling on, they couldn’t possibly be honest with their followers regarding their history or formation of doctrine. This might cause outrage or worse, thousands leaving out of digust. Back in the 50’s an elder gave a speech at one of the big assemblies and stated that the cup he held up might be blue, but if the Society told him it was black, well then it’s black. That my friend is pathetic and this brainwashing idealogy still exists today.

  32. tim
    December 6th, 2005 at 14:12 | #32

    Don’t read the Bible because you will find terrible
    things being done in the first century congregations,
    so the Christian religion was corrupt at the start,
    proving we can’t trust any teachings found therein,
    right? WRONG.
    Why are the JW”s the most attacked religion worldwide?
    Its not because they kill others in war like other religions.
    Is it?
    Its not because they do not know the Bible like most other
    Christian religions. Is it?
    Its not because they tell others freely with out pay about
    God and the Bible, unlike most all others. Is it?
    Let them tell you. You will find Bible answers.

  33. Ken
    November 17th, 2005 at 15:22 | #33

    Hi:
    When I was a teenage Witness, I always felt that I didn’t fit in with the rest of my peers at school or the rest of society. Looking back now (I am 51 years old and no longer a Witness), I didn’t fit in because my religious beliefs were different from everybody else’s. When I started serving as an elder, I quickly discovered that many Witness youths leave double lives-one at the Kingdom Hall and at home, another life everywhere such as at school. I remember reading a poll once (sorry, I don’t remember the source) which stated that Jehovah’s Witnesses have the highest rate of persons leaving their religion of any religion that claims to be Christian in the United States. I would have to believe this poll because I remember so many people who left my congregatin, particularly young people.

  34. Reuben
    November 11th, 2005 at 03:55 | #34

    They d.f’d you for causing divisions? Thank goodness for that-I hope the congregation is at peace now, and Jehovah’s spirit can flow freely, now that the disruptive influence has been removed!

  35. fri
    November 8th, 2005 at 14:22 | #35

    Anonymous, If you are a JW your mind is being controlled. Mind-control is most effective when people think they are exercising free will, but if the person is programmed to act as a self-regulator, then the control is really successful. Most Witnesses will argue that they exercise free choice, but if I offer you a choice from a selection, strictly limited by me, is that really a choice? Picture yourself in an airplane and at meal time the steward will come and ask you “Chicken or beef?” Is that really a choice? NO, it is an illusion of free choice and it is effective because you are led to believe that your can choose. Witnesses have their choices very limited in many areas, but still people think they have a choice when in fact choices are made for them. Armies control people. Basic training reprograms the soldier’s mind to do the will of the Army under special conditions, but in civilian life, the recruit is allowed freedom of expression and choice (JW do not outside the Kingdom Hall). Children are controlled by parents (or they used to be!), but this is temporary and the child breaks free in adolescence to stand alone, and parents are happy to see their children grow to maturity and become INDEPENDENT of their necessary control. Unfortunately witnesses will never have this freedom; choices are always made for them, but most of them never realize this. Let us suppose that your mind is controlled. Would you know it? How could you? Surely the whole point of mind-control is that the person being controlled is unaware of it. Does a puppet know he is being controlled? NO! Still he moves happily. You are taught that Satan the Devil is the ruler of this world and everything, everyone on this planet, except Jehovah’s Witnesses, is under his control. The Witnesses attend meetings three times each week plus perhaps, 20 minutes before and after each gathering. During that time, the ideas and language of Jehovah’s Witnesses are continually reiterated. Witnesses rely upon the Writing Committee of the “faithful slave” to research for them. This is encouraged by the leadership. Regarding personal study, The Watchtower said, “do some spiritual digging in order to begin getting the very knowledge of Jehovah’s heavenly organization” (w15/6 98) where is this “digging” to be done? In the Bible? NO. But the Watchtower Index.
    If you ever want to memorize something, sing it. It is a very effective way to learn and remember written material. One note or phrase can help you recall a whole song that you have not sung for years. (”Baa, baa, black sheep, have you…..”) All of the 225 songs used in Witness meetings are written by Jehovah’s Witnesses to avoid the influence of so called “false religion” in the hymns of the Christian church (this does not prevent Witness writers “borrowing” musical phrases and themes). Each week at Witness meetings, six songs in total are sung and Witnesses are “encouraged” to sing these as part of their worship and to listen to the “up-building” music of Kingdom Melodies at other times. When listening to these tapes, the words of the songs inevitably come to mind. Music is a very powerful influence as the Society itself is aware – it discourages listening to popular “worldly” music. Does the leadership control other information? Yes, most effectively. It never actually forbids the reading of any material, but “advises”, “encourages”, “reasons with”, the faithful Witness to avoid material which, as they say “is harmful to you. If, in research on the internet, you find facts at odds with what you have been taught, will you explain these away by saying that they are lies created to mislead you?
    How do you view people who are not Witnesses? Do you believe they are immoral and dishonest? Do you disbelieve the stories about Jehovah’s Witnesses who have committed fraud, child abuse, rape and other crimes? Do you think that they were never “proper” Jehovah’s Witnesses? Do you try to convince yourself that they were “never really in the truth”? The facts show that some active and approved Witnesses are dishonest, yet you still have contact with them. Suppose that you dare to criticize something connected with “Jehovah’s organization” – what will happen? Won’t other Witnesses quickly withdraw from you because “you are discouraging”? “Read God’s Word the Holy Bible Daily”. Witnesses are encouraged to study the Bible, but they are told that they cannot understand it unless it is explained to them. And by whom? By the “faithful and discreet slave” composed of about 6, 000 spirit-anointed” men and women world-wide, but represented by only a dozen men in Brooklyn. If they are the faithful and discrete slave how come the instructions only come from the 12 or 13????
    At the end of every assembly, a speaker from the national headquarters of Jehovah’s Witnesses usually gives an inspiring talk relating how “Jehovah has blessed his people in xyz country”- usually involving b numerical increases and experiences in various lands. These talks, and others on assembly programmers, are often punctuated by enthusiastic “spontaneous applause” from a claque, cued by expressions such as “Isn’t that something we are all very happy about Brothers?” (Applause) Have you been told that the New World Translation is the best of all Bible translations? Do you believe that only Jehovah’s Witnesses, as a special group of people, were chosen by God, to “preach the good news before the end comes”? Although the Bible warns Christians not to judge others since we are all sinners, Jehovah’s Witnesses do this all the time. It is reasoned that, although we cannot judge the inner man, we can know his “heart condition” (spirituality) by his words and actions – “out of the heart’s abundance the mouth speaks”. That is enough for Jehovah’s Witnesses. Those who do not attend all meetings are “weak” or uncommitted unless they have exceptional reasons. Even in the case of severe disability, every effort is made to attend meetings and assemblies – in wheelchairs or on beds and stretchers if necessary.
    If a man works shifts, he will be encouraged to find other employment and if he wishes to gain a position as elder, he really must attend the Kingdom Hall regularly. Tales are told of Witnesses traversing crocodile-infested rivers or terrain frequented by dangerous animals to attend meetings, while The Watchtower encourages swapping of unpopular shifts with fellow-employees so that Witnesses do not miss meetings. And a woman “paid a fellow-worker to cover her shift so that she could be free to attend these important meetings” (w1/9 98) Are Jehovah’s Witnesses “brainwashed”? Yes, definitely.
    Witness converts soon learn that they should answer “question and answer” meeting parts “in their own words”. This means that they should not read answers verbatim from the paragraphs of The Watchtower or study book being used. Instead they should rephrase their answers. This does not mean that they will answer in their own words because they will still conform to the well-understood jargon phrases of Jehovah’s Witnesses e.g. “Babylon the Great” which is the “world empire of false religion” instead of “all religion in this world which does not worship Jehovah through his organization and, according to the Society, has pagan origins from ancient Babylon If you stay in the organization,.

    The longer you vacillate, the more difficult it is to leave. If you do not act soon, you will slip back into inertia and, before long, you will be passively swallowing all the spiritual junk “food” again, as fast as the “faithful steward” can serve it. The Org has promised a bridge between God and mankind, however the only bridge you get is Brooklyn Bridge.

  36. Anonymous
    November 8th, 2005 at 10:50 | #36

    i have been a witness all my life. i am 23 years old. grant it adhereing to the faith may not be easy because of the rules set out in the bible. remember the society says nothing of its own accord. but every thing that they state is from God’s own word. you might say she has never experienced life. well you would be wrong i have lived both lives that as of a young women who chosse to have bad associates and who led a life filled with sex, drugs, pain and grief. it was only when i myself on my own took the truth serioulsy and started to research ever littel question about it that a person could think of that i proved to my self that i choose the right way to live. i no longer cut myself i no longer cry for long periods at night because i feel dirty form having sex or causing the people that love me around me pain. you see that’s the thing people who use to be witness only bad mouth the truth if they where disfellowshipped are because they want to do what they want to do. it’s just like jesus said about the seed falling on diffrent soils we all take the truth diffrently and what we decide to do with it is our choice. the society never claims that they are perfect or that the elders are perfect. but Jehovah’s holy spirit helps them to guide us in the way that he see’s fit. i think that is what a lot of people forget that jehovah’s holy spirit runs the organization. yes there are congreagtions that are more zealous then others. there are ones more loving than others. but since we are imperfect in we all are striving for everlasting life we have to remember no matter if our whole congreagation is no good jehovah will be the judge and will take care of this in his own do time. we listen to the meassage that he gives us from the bible thorought his faithful slave. we take what they give us from jehovah and study it along with our copy of the bible and gain strenght. the weak of faith and heart are the ones who allow themselves to be drawn out by their own selfish desires that leads them a stray. because when you are truly living your life for jehovah notting can separate you from his love. that is from the bible in romans8:31-39 and when you truly believe this then you live your life for him and him alone. you don’t let negative experineces in the congreagtion or where ever else in your life make you stop serving jehovah. because if you do you were not serving him to begin with. jehovah never said it would be easy. he fortold all that is going on in the world today. include sites like these that bash the truth. but i choose to stand on the side of God. because the evidence is far more positive for the truth then against it think about it.

  37. Steven Mutschler
    October 27th, 2005 at 16:18 | #37

    I found this article lacking in objectivity expected of a social psychologist or any analyst for that matter. This was clearly an opinion piece, couched in the language of an objective analyst. I question the writer’s credentials, but admittedly I probably will not take the time to find out more about him.

    The article is peppered with sentences such as this biased explanation as to why children are pushed toward the doctrine:

    “Firstly, it is an easy way of recruiting new members to the Society, thereby enhancing conversion statistics for the future and, secondly, it is a means of protecting what are arguably society’s most vulnerable people from the snares of the devil.”

    Who are you kidding? I marvel at the ignorance of readers (and writer) that choose to believe that “recruitment” is first and foremost on the mind of the parent. Any parent knows the “second” reason is the ONLY concern a parent has — the “welfare” of the child. The author wants us to believe that Witnesses are robotic fanatics. Good try, but I know better. (We may not agree that this church is the best influence, but a parent is a parent, nonetheless.)

    I am not a Witness, but I respect religious freedom among other freedoms. And I certainly respect the right of a parent to raise a child in the way they think is best for the child (so long as their teachings do not encourage UNLAWFUL behavior).

    All we can conclude from this writing is that our writer lacks the basic fundamentals of parenting and would have us follow his lead. Sorry. I’m not buying.

  38. October 25th, 2005 at 02:42 | #38

    I read and thought that the information was very good. I thought the information was accurate and using the words of the people involved, was another good idea. For some reason or other, the W.T.B.T.S. doesn’t like the word cult, but that is exactly what they are. The definition of cult is as you know, “a system or community of religious worship and ritual” and that is what they are. I did not see that word used in the article one time, but i could have missed it. I am one that has lived through all those things that ANDREW HOLDEN mentioned in the article. For 47-years i was involved in the congregation activity and thought i was doing the right thing. I raised two boys in those years and they became part of it too. After they got older and on their own, they found out before i did, that the W.T.B.T.S. was a cult and quit. in the article it was mentioned that Russell started the movement and Rutherford was next. Rutherford changed many things that Russell started. Russell said there was no reason to have another organization, and there was one organization in heaven and that was all that was needed. When they started using this organization to dictate to the rank and file it got worse and worse, until what we see today. They are a money making society now. I have always thought that the government should tax all religion and especially the W.T.B.T.S. They are experts in hiding and laundering the money that passes through their hands. I thought that it was only fair to tell the ones that read this information that they should be on guard against the Pedophiles and homosexuals within this organization. The W.T.B.T.S. protects them and all the information about them is confidential. The congregation that i left last, about three years ago had three, so i knew of them and reported them. They D.F. me for causing division right after they resigned from the UNITED NATIONS, when we found out they joined them. Knowing that their understanding of the U.N. was that it was, the beast of revolation. They knocked other religions for using a mediator other than CHRIST and look what they are doing. They are using their governing body as a mediator. Instead of bowing to GOD, they make their own rules. They twist the scriptures to their own LIKING. I liked the way ANDREW explained their numbers are coming from families all ready associated and relatives. Most of them love the power that comes with control and that is how they recruit the men for those positions of oversight that reward them with all kinds of things, including, NEW CARS EVERY OTHER YEAR – HEALTH INSURANCE FOR THEM AND THEIR WIVES – ALL THEIR NEEDS ARE TAKEN CARE OF AND EACH VISIT TO A CONGREGATION, BRINGS THEM ANOTHER $150.OO PLUS. THEY HAVE CONTROL AT EVERY MOVE. The article was great and thankyou for letting me comment on it.

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