“Apostate” info comes from nowhere else other than the past Watchtowers and literature.

Why do you think they want you off the internet?

Because its past teachings are shown to be false, contradictory and ignorant.

Many bound volumes of Watchtowers have been edited from when they where originally published…

From Awake! 1969 May 22 p.15:
“If you are a young person, you also need to face the fact that you will never grow old in this present system of things. Why not? Because all the evidence in fulfillment of Bible prophecy indicates that this corrupt system is due to end in a few years. Therefore, as a young person, you will never fulfill any career that this system offers. If you are in highschool and thinking about a college education, it means at least four, perhaps even six or eight more years to graduate into a specialized career. But where will this system of things be by that time? It will be well on the way toward its finish, if not actually gone!”

Just thought I would log on and find out if anything new was being discussed. It does not look like I missed much over the passed months. Either He is Or He is not. We will find out in the end or we won’t if we don’t wake up after death. We choose one or the other and the consequences that come with that choice.

@henri
Hows this for blasphemy?
Your living God of the Old Testament is egotistical, a lover of burning flesh, a child murderer, condones raping of virgins, thinks slavery is just peachy clean and to top it all knows nothing of the Universe he allegedly created.
Just when you think a God could not be any worse we get the living God of the New Testament this fine fellow introduces us to Hell where we will spend the rest of time in agony, and all because we do not have the misguided and ignorant thought patterns you do.
It all in your good book why don’t you read the blady thing and get a whimpering of a life?
Cheers,
Markus

at Markus, i worship a living God, and if you were ever opportuned to pick up a Bible, what you wrote is equated to blasphemy. hope you know what that means. you have to know where you stand. i am a christian.

what would jesus do?

I hear the WT is also preparing to employ its members as cleaning people for the Illuminati; I guess the elites appreciate polite servants who would never think of stealing from the masters ;0

And check this out:

http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/the_russell_bloodline.htm

The feeling of emptiness you stated would have to be associated with the fact that you only ever knew organized man-made religion.
Consider the fact that despite your beliefs and ideology regarding a God, creation, a Messiah, etc, what is written in the Bible has never actually been established as factual. Sure, we can point to certain aspects & snippets of info & archeological developments that reaffirms our beliefs; however that doesn’t actually prove anything. Be realistic; think about the bigger picture, not just the concept of reality that has been provided to you since birth or whenever you adopted your beliefs.
Consider that there has been many evolutions of Christianity since its inception, even new ones to this day, however every one of them will manipulate and/or perceive that a given fact or new development from a secular standpoint justifies their belief/doctrinal structure, yet these beliefs could all be different from each others.

Yes, it is easy to judge each other with the firm conviction that our faith/beliefs are the only way, however if none of them can be proven factually, just what do you have?

here’s a good question for you if there is no God then why is there a feeling of emptyness, why does man kind search so hard to fill this need, you know something is missing, if no God then what?

Some thoughts for the happy camper ever smiling the Lord loves me Christians:

Folks, most of you will not accept with what I put forward in this argument, it contains a similar dialogue I happened to recently have with a representative of my former religion which used to be the Jehovah’s Witnesses.
I saw some of the well dressed faithful doing the rounds in the road I live and invited them in.
Always willing to accept tea and biscuits, I made these good folk feel comfortable. We had a brief discussion on the sport of the day, us South Africans getting the better of the Australians and New Zealanders in the Super 14 Rugby.
It was not long before the leading representative took it upon himself to cut to the chase and tell me the good news, which for those of you who don’t know, involves 99% of mankind being wiped out by our loving father and son consortium.
He lead me to Matt 24 where the description of the world’s end is quite clear: floods, famine, disease, war etc.
I complained to him that in Matt 24 the scriptures were clearly talking about the folk then living, and he disagreed saying I should read then whole of the Bible including Revelation. To cut a long story short the clever JW was soon very happy to put a maximum amount of distance between them and I. All I was doing was asking him about the myriads of contradictions in the good book. I had not even started on my favourite subjects of the fabled creation and the great flood.
It came as a shock to him as it will to most of you out there, that the Atheist knows more about the scriptures than do most Christians. This is because most of us (who were Christian, take note) have taken the time to read the scriptures and understand them, and have come to our conclusions which generally speaking are as follows:
Biblegod is a bastard in the Old Testament but a hero in the New.
The convergence of both these pieces of writings is unlikely, as is confirmed by the Jews who will have nothing to do with the NT. I mean hell, lets get realistic, Biblegod brought lightning down and fried the unbelievers, even the good old mule keeper named Uzzah who put his hand out to prevent the Ark from falling was unbelievably murdered by our nice guy God.

Jesus and the New Testament comes along and we have a very good man who according to the good book had thousands of followers, he did a heck of a lot of good things, healing the sick, feeding hoards, turning water into wine and even raising the dead.
One would think this amazing fellow would be famous, we would imagine there would be rock paintings, perhaps sculptures of this incredible man.
But when one looks at reliable historical records this is not so.
Sorry folks, there is nothing other than the pathetic record by ancient historian whose name was Josephius whose extensive writings include the great Jesus in less than three paragraphs. Even these few words are deemed by scholars to have been forged by the clergy.
If the senile old men that wrote the scriptures, chose to have man created by Biblegod who waved his magic wand and turned the nearest tadpole into a man we would have swallowed it, why? Because it was written over 6000 years ago, while the art of writing was in its infancy.
In my opinion religion is a means of gaining revenue by the greedy from the mindless.
The notion of selling someone an idea that they will continue after their physical bodies have run out of gas has to be an evil absurdity in its purest form.

Cheers,
Markus

Is the sky blue on your panet?

Time and time again, they’ve gone before the supreme court and won. It seems that when Jehovah wants something done it will happen.

p.s.
Ha Ha!

amen

Maybe if this organization had more sensible teachings and was willing to integrate critical ideas for the purpose of improving their own paradigm, they would not be losing so many members. And they wouldn’t need to waste so much money fighting legal battles because there wouldn’t be any.

Good comment, its information we all encountered during our due diligence in studying this religion’s true history.
Good old Buck-teeth and other zealous ignorant JW’s will merely dismiss all that was said and simply misquote scriptures, insult you and/or completely change the subject. This of course will all be accomplished with lunatic reasoning & what will appear to be a written code in need of deciphering. The code will simply be horrendous spelling & grammar all learnt at the KH.

Take care, perhaps Buck-teeth you would like to finally address your faith’s falsehoods? Don’t worry you’re not alone, we all at one time or another hard as it was, dealt with this too.

And people wonder why we don’t always answer another’s comments.
The Buckless Wonder above has posted another insane comment, spelling bee he isn’t let alone smart enough to even deal with the facts presented regarding his God the Watchtower.
Buy a dictionary and spend some time studying the facts regarding your programmer, sorry leader the Watchtower. Come back with a comment that reflects the fact you can actually rationalize and discuss issues without resorting to the crap they feed you at the KH.
Or you can continue to type comments that merely exhibit the typical characteristics of JW’s…..lack of knowledge, education and rationale.

Thank you.

Oh, Oh, so wonderful – Finally a BA Christian and I just know he knows the defination of the word Christ and how he fits into Jehovah’s purposes. Please, Please, let us all know please. The defination of the word, who did it, and for what purpose. I am sure as you are BA you know all these things and the small stone you have confirm it as it says is Revelations. Please let us know!

Goody, goody, James knows the only one true worship that God accepts out of the thousands in this world. Quick, Jimmy, tell us. quick. Thanls

Mam – would you please let us know what the word CHRIST means and how is it supposed to influence us today? T hank you

I think you need to pay attention to your nephew Raymond. He was the one that actually repented from his sins and woke up. That was one mighty good book he wrote–Crisis of Conscience. Read it. You will be glad you did. If you dismiss it, you will regret it.

I wonder how many of the elders are looking on these sites to see how many of their own congregations are posting on them. They have the duty to keep the congregation “clean”, and this could include looking on these sites for posts that could come from their own. What I hope is that they will have to read so many of them that their eyes will be opened, and they will all turn apostate themselves. And if the hounders all turn apostate, the hounder-hounders will have to take their positions. And if they start looking for apostates, they themselves will be next. And so on up the line. Good for any who do turn apostate.

As a matter of fact, I have read many magazines. I have even been to quite a few meetings. I have noticed blatant contradictions from one article to the next, from one meeting to the next, and from one teaching to the next. One of the most blatant is when they tell people to rest, and when they report about a sport or hobby in the Asleep magazine. Then along comes the Service Meeting, and all the time spent on that sport or hobby is now counted as stolen from the ministry, and they hound you to sacrifice it to Jehovah. That is a blatant contradiction.

Another blatant contradiction is when they say that the assemblies are a taste of the new order. Then when I get there, the opposite sex wants absolutely nothing to do with me (not because of being disfellowshipped, since the MEN still come to me). And when I point out that they called this a taste of the new order, they contradict the statement directly. This is the kind of crap I have actually experienced–one teaching or article that blatantly clashes with others. And I am sure that there are many others that would fill a whole exabyte to describe them all (an exabyte is a billion gigabytes–a LOT of space). Suffice it to say that I have been through it, and I have seen many blatant contradictions from within their own teachings. And I have seen more bulls&^# on the official site, too.

Ho hum, another childish and immature comment from the retard section. Is English a second language for you?

Okay there Sparky, knock yourself out. Perhaps it’s time for your medication?
I understand your hate, it’s just not going to help any cause or argument if you’re acting insane.