Moscow Police detains Jehovah's Witnesses during the Memorial of Christ's Death
“They burst in at the height of the service, when the symbols were being passed,” Kanin, the spokesman of the Jehovah’s Witnesses in Russia said, referring to the bread and wine used to symbolize Jesus Christ’s body and blood. “They wouldn’t even allow them to finish the ceremony. There was nothing secretive going on there.”
The Memorial was attended by about 200 Jehovah’s Witnesses. The police, who arrived in 10 squad cars after Moscow citizens reported the meeting, detained 14 Jehovah’s Witnesses and questioned the detainees between two and four hours before they were released.
The police told the worshipers that they were violating a 2004 ban on Jehovah’s Witnesses in Moscow.
In June 2004, the Moscow City Court barred the denomination from engaging in religious activities, citing a law that bans religious groups deemed to incite hatred or intolerance.
Kalin, the spokesman of the Jehovah’s Witnesses, said the ban applied to Jehovah’s Witnesses only as a legal entity and that the Russian Constitution guaranteed members freedom of assembly.
The U.S. State Department’s 2005 report on religious freedom, released in November, said that “some federal agencies and many local authorities” in Russia “continued to restrict the rights of various religious minorities” and cited specifically the 2004 ban of Jehovah’s Witnesses activities in Moscow.
The report cited “indications that the security services, including the Federal Security Service, increasingly treated the leadership of some minority religious groups as security threats.”
Criticism concerning the lack of religious freedom has been repeatedly dismissed by government and Russian Orthodox Church officials.
There are about 10,000 Jehovah’s Witnesses in Moscow and 142,439 in whole Russia, according to Watchtower statistics.
Sources used: MOSNEWS.COM and The Moscow Times.
Except it is a word for word WRONG translation… sorry.
I teach New Testament Greek at university.
It really says:
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Small difference, but very important!
Here is the original, see for yourself:
?? ???? ?? ? ????? ??? ? ????? ?? ???? ??? ???? ??? ???? ?? ? ?????.
“a God” is “???? ????” in Greek, and it does not say that in the text.
If you can’t read Greek and you don’t want to take my word for it, please have a look at other translations. I gladly talk you through the grammar, if you want.
By the way, I hope you see this little hint as an attempt to shine some light, not to fog anything.
You Are not really well educated in biblical themes at all. If you were, you would have read the Emphatic Diaglot which is a word for word translation of the scriptures. 1 John: (Emphatic Diaglot) says, “In the beginning was God, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a God”. If only you were to really educate on biblical quotes and themes you would be in a position to argue the point lucidly, however since you don’t, you revert to petty fogging. If you really want a religion to attack, try the Roman Catholic Church. The crimes against humanity that they have committed over the centuries is hair raising. If you want to read about the R.C.C. try Tony Bushby’s “The Bible Fraud” obtainable from Joshuabooks.com Your education on biblical matters would then take off. In the meantime forget about JW’s. They have as much right to worship in their particular way as anyone else, if in fact, we really have freedom of religion, which obviously we don’t.
yes why do you think every thing in the world is so screwed up .God wouldnt let this happen its satan.
the U.N. will stop all religion its just a matter of time
Hi you with no name,
Your comment showing how you try to justify what that bush have done to other country.He pretend to be the police of the world. And the way you said it showing how arrogant you are, and you think you better than other people, you are sick!!. No wonder people all over the world hate american. This is all because of people like you. Maybe that is why terrorist try to eliminate people like you. Unfortunately good people become the victims instead of you!!!!!
Dengan Hormat,
Halo,
So sory please, you make mistake. Problem-Problem here with Muslim first when America attak Muslim Afgan and Iraq. Now orang-orang Muslim say we friend for Bush, they no like.
1998 problem here about land, not about religious.
True katolik also problem, but we no katolik.
Beforre orang-orang Muslim and Christien have peece.
now many problem…
We have demokratik, like you.
So sorry, for say you not right
Andre
Andre,
If we would all be honest and deal with facts then we all would be much better off. Is it true that your conflict errupted much earlier like in about 1998? Didn’t you have two Catholic Priests executied in September of 2006? Who caused the death of over a thousand of your citizens during all this conflict? It doesn’t take much for the religious pot to boil over and peace will never come if freedom does not exist.
yes
attacker have blame much.
First Bush attack Iraq then orang-orang Muslim attack church here.
Bush attack first, so first has blame. Orang-orang Muslim attack later, also have blame, but second blame.
If Bush no attak Iraq, orang-orang Muslim no attack church. But Bush no pay for window, so sorry. Grandmother in hospital, very expensive, but Bush no pay again, so sorry. Muslim pay little-litle for window, thank you so much.
Bush make much problem-problem for Chritian in Muslim country.
Andre,
Don’t you get it!!!! It is called intolerance. You had nothing to do with the Iraqi war. Why were you a target? Who did it? Someone draws a cartoon and the whole world goes crazy. Someone publishes an article critical of a group of people and the world goes crazy.
Christians are attacked and we suck it up. You blame Bush because your church is attacked. You don’t hold the attacker to blame? Please tell me why.
You are crossing the street, a car runs you down and kills you. You blame a car designer or the person that ran you down. Is Bush to blame for all of the carnage that radical Islamics visits on the world. I guess he is also to blame for 9-11.
Sami,
I agree with that which you say. We have smal church in Sulawesi Island.
When Bush attack Iraq, start problem-problem here.
People which Muslim throw stone-stone at window and people many hurt. Some Chritian now no work.
Before we have problem never.
Sorry Inglish not so good.
Apakah dengan kamu sekalian? Semuah sehat?
Oh dear, so the US president is doing all this FOR ME?
Really?
Tell him from me, please, I am very flattered, but I really would very much prefer to be kept out of it. His kind of help I can do very well without. I most certainly would not be even the smallest part of any of his various justifications.
Has he ever thought of what it does for people like me if he keeps on justifying his actions in the name of Christianity? Does he really think it makes our little church more safe or more popular here??
Sami
Sami,
If little green men from Mars had hijacked airplanes and crashed them into the World Trade Center, wouldn’t it be stupid of customs to allow little green men from Mars to enter the US without giving them a little more scrutny than the average Joe?
I really have better things to do than try to rebut you.
Have a good life and we will try to make our small contribution to lowering the number terrorist so that you will have your freedom.
Hello again
Have you arrived from a flight abroad back to the US recently? Have a look what goes on. Our government has formally complained about this, but I assume that did not even make your news.
I did not say I COULDN’T go to the US, I said I was not welcome, so I would not go. Asian and middle Eastern people get “special treatment” in immigration, visa or not. A friend of mine from Singapore went to Miami, via London recently. In London, show your passport, no problem, he was in. In Miami he sat in queue for over four hours, was not allowed to go to the loo and then had to face a lengthy interview. All he wanted to do was to have a holiday. Well, he stayed one night and then changed his flight to go home. By the way, there was not one white face in the queue. And that is just visitors, God know what happens if you have an Asian face and dare to suggest you want to stay there.
Where did I mention any Kurds? I agree with you in the utter condemnation of that. That does not mean it is ok to cause the death of over a million civilians and displace many more, though. Two wrongs do not make a right.
Do you really think the US invaded Iraq to help the Kurds? Odd, why did they wait for almost 20 years? Try to look past all the stuff they feed you and look at it from other points of view as well. Perhaps you find not all I tell you can so easily dismissed.
Perhaps it would be a bit of an eye-opener for Americans to listen to some other news around the world? Did you know, for example, that a British minister said in their parliament that the biggest threat to world peace at the moment is the US president? That’s one or your allies, by the way. It seems even they are running out of patience.
Does being a Christian mean in America mean you must be a supporter of George Bush? Here is certainly does not. Do you think any good Christian in Roman times should have supported Nero? I think you may have heard about what happens to those who “live by the sword”. Tell me if I am wrong, but the bible does not appear to list the US government as an exception to this rule…
Sami.
Sammi!
To use a baseball term we use in the US “you are so far out in left field, you are out of the game completely”. You are spewing stuff that you know absolutely nothing about. Anyone and I mean ANYONE with a valid passport and not on a terrorist watch list (people who are known to be involved in terrorism) can come and go in this country at will. I don’t know where you are getting your information, but you should continue to research.
You call yourself “Christian” and I nearly fell off my perch! I say it again, you call yourself “Christian”. After reading all the propaganda you unleashed, I would consider otherwise. You know I would never judge, but I as a fruit inspector I would say something smells.
So all the mass graves and the death of the Kurds and the random beheading just for the hell of it don’t count. Are you a master at reading tea leaves? Please check your dictionary and read what the word Intelligence means. You are assuming and supposing and drawing conclusions.
A few posts ago you were ranting about hygiene and being critical about the method of wiping ones back side. And you want people to take you serious NOW? You have your opinion and that is fine with me. You find everything wrong with America. Hey, we can’t even clean our butt to suite you, how can one expect that we can do anything else that pleases you.
Yeah I guess that would work if I lived in Canada….I don’t but hey thanks for the assumption.
Speaking of assuming, perhaps it’s just easier to get on the bandwagon along with the others easily conned into whatever the media states or perhaps topics like global warming?
to the “hello” guy, sorry, didn’t fill in my name in the right box when I wrote my reply to you (above).
About casualty figures: Your own news channel CNN reports them as in excess of 655000 in Iraq, and about 540000 in Afghanistan. Other news channels, like Algezira, report them as much higher. .
You would probably argue that the US is not responsible for this. Well, then you need to show me that this would have happened anyway, without any US intervention. It is obvious that it would NOT have happened without it, so US intervention is the cause, so the US is ultimately responsible. As you say, the US is paying, so presumably they have every right to cause the deaths of as many people as they want. If you buy a car, and you pay for it, it is your car and you are responsible for it. You pay the parking fines even if you lent it someone else. So, if your goverment “buys” a war, they bought the responsibility for the consequences also.
Then you seem take the US president’s undoubted skill in deception and bully-tactics as a sign of intelligence. Have you ever met a school bully? They often get what they want, but usually they are not very clever.
The US did not invade Afghanistan to liberate women. The main point was for domestic consumption: after the attack in New York the government needed to be seen as doing something, anything, the more dramatic the better. Afghanistan was a realatively soft target, and it had a tenuous connection with Osama Bin Laden, so it was picked on. The taliban was never in favour of anything that Osama Bin Laden stood for, but it had little choice but to honour the pledge to protect its “guests”, and Osama Bin Laden cleverly obtained this status from them so as to be protected by the commands of the Q’ran. I think even if the taliban had tried to fully cooperate with the US givernment, the outcome would have been the same. The US government needed a scapegoat, and Afghanistan did just fine. As simple as that. If you are a small country with few resources, you better do all the US asks, or else. That is US foreign policy. There are many governments where US standards, as they see them, are not met, China being one. Why have you not invaded there? Simple, because you would loose, and badly. There are many places on earth were there is some injustice; why not invade there also?
The story of Iraq is, sadly, much the same. Neither a clear government-terrorist connection nor the weapons of mass-distruction were ever proved. True, the Iraqi regime, as it was then, was loathsome. But why pick this place to invade, in preference to any other similar one? Because it was a relatively simple target, and it was good propaganda back in the US, and, as an added bonus, some of the cost could be retrieved from oil revenue.
In my country, we have religious freedom, and relatively few problems. In fact, many people change religion every day in both directions, mainly when they get married.
I am Christian, and therefore a minority here, but I never had any problems because of it. You may also have discovered the reason why there are relatively few Christians here: Christianity was introduced by our past colonial masters by bully tactics, bribes and discrimination. By contrast, Islam has been here much longer and was brought peacefully by Arab traders. So, after indepencence, a lot of people here and in neighbouring Indonesia abandoned Christianity as the religion of the oppressor and returned to Islam. My family did not, so I am a Christian. The only difference with being a Christian in the US is that sometimes I have to work on days like Christmas day. Then again, Muslims in the US have to do the same on days like Idul Fitri…
As far as traveling to the US is concerned, I would never dream of traveling anywhere where I was not welcome. I hear that anyone from a Muslim country automatically gets treated worse than a drug smuggler on arrival in the US, so, sorry, I will give that a miss. I am an honest man, not a criminal, and I have some dignity, and no US cutoms officer will ever stick a rubber-gloved finger into any part of my body, looking for alleged bombs. There are friendlier places. I have been to Mexico, and I liked that. Australia was OK, too, even England and France was friendly and fun. I also liked India, Kenya and Tanzania, all great places to visit.
I wonder what your government would say if our little place decided to introduce the same measures you have in place for visiting Americans?
About the “liberties” in the US, I am perfectly free to do whatever I want here, but unlike in the US I don’t need to worry about some gun-crazed lunatic when walking down the street. You would find that Kuala Lumpur is a lot safer than, for example, New York or Miami. Even an American living here would not be in any real danger, but he would find it very difficult to make any friends, and, sadly, few people would want one as neighbour, as it would lower their property value.
I will give you this, though: I know that not all Americans support their present government and its excesses. No, I could not be friends with someone who supports the Iraq desaster, but I would spend the time to find out before deciding. I also accept that many Americans have been “duped” by their own government in the same way as some other governments have been. Hopefully at last many of you are seeing sense and are ready to get rid of this government.
Terima Kasih untuk tulis (Thank you for writing…)
Sami
Sami!
If a person is an American and that person gives you a response, it would be rational thinking that the response would be an American response. Right? Now lets use a little logic if you can find it in your scope of thinking without bias. I live in America so I can reasonably speak for at least a segment of the population. First, I ask you to research the loss of life by the common citizen of Afghanistan and Iraq before the invasion of the Allied troops. Remember, it was not only American troops that entered the countries. Please email to this website the numbers so that the world can see. We are trying to be honest in our assessment with FACTS alone. For a person of such low intelligence, this president was at least smart enough to “dupe” an awful lot of countries into believing the weapons of mass destruction. So I would deduct that he has a little more up top than you give him credit for. Who is funding this war? Do you honestly believe we did this just for oil? In the end we will be paying a pretty big bill for a tank of gasoline. If you could, would you be comfortable being a woman in Afghanistan under the Talaban? Where on earth did you get the Vietnam story? You seem to KNOW a lot about our history and war? Please let me know where you are getting all this so I can educate myself also.
I did some research about your country. It is a fact that I knew little about it. It seems to be a nice place to live if you are Muslim. Seems the Christians do live there but the restrictions are far greater than any freedom to worship here. At least we can build churches and mosques with equal freedoms. If you come to this country and get through our security screeners, you will be welcomed. You would be allowed to buy a house and you would be as safe as any American. You would be protected by the same laws and given the same liberties as any American. If you chose not to be Muslim anymore, you would be allowed to be any religion you wanted without any fear. I could go on and on but I doubt that you will take anything I say to heart. As long as you spew the line you believe as truth, we can forget ever being friends. Do yourself a favor and take an honest look at all the things you said, then do some checking. You may be surprised at what you find. Just remember, it may do you some good the look up the word “intelligence” in the dictionary and apply it to yourself. You may want to check the word “honest” also. Let me hear from you!
A typical American response. If you don’t get what you want, try violence. If you don’t know what to say, try abuse.
Very civilised.
I remember one particular ridiculous, almost comical example of US arrogance:
The US soldiers in Vietnam tried to teach the local people the virtues of cleanliness, by making them bath in a tub, one after the other, all in the same dirty water.
If they had bothered to find out, they would have noticed that hygiene standards in the Far East are considerably higher than in the US. We use only clean water to wash, and prefer showers or water boxes. The western practice of toilet paper has always been the subject of jokes here. We have toilets with a small shower next to it, so that we can wash afterwards, and toilet paper is used only for drying, not (yuk) for just wiping.
The Vietnamese people, getting lectures on hygiene from by their standards filthy soldiers, still managed enough manners to quietly listen. This is the difference between those who are civilised and those who are not.
Thanks for the liberal left-slanted idiotic comment.
Really where are these people heads?
““Fighting for their own freedom”???
The troops in Iraq??? Have you been on planet earth recently?
The troops is Iraq carry out the wishes of the US president, an alcoholic with extremely low intelligence, but with a hugely over inflated Ego.
His motivation is to gratify his thirst for revenge for the humiliation of 9/11 (at anyone, innocent or not), and to satisfy his never-ending hunger for more power and resources, like cheap oil. He had no scruples to use bare-faced lies to congress and to the UN in order to get his campaigns in Iraq and Afghanistan going. Where exactly are those weapons of mass destruction?
The US soldiers’ fight is an unjust one, and apart from fighting at least some of them have taken up torture as a hobby. So far for the honourable US army.
As the Americans have twice chosen to be led by a power-crazed idiot, they are collectively responsible for the slaughter in Iraq and Afghanistan, and history will place the current US government in parallel with the Nazi-regime, no doubt. Well at least one claim to fame…
Hopefully there are some Americans with enough understanding and courage to see what their country has become, and one day they may even decide to rejoin the human race.
In many places round the world, Americans are no longer welcome because of their president, mine (Malaysia) included. We are only a small country, and our government has little choice but to try to keep up appearances with the US, but I would not advise any US citizen to try and buy a house in Kuala Lumpur…
Your government systematically subjects any person with a brown or black face to deliberate and systematic humiliation when the arrive at any US airport, and it still have the nerve to call itself civilised. Personally, I would rather die than serve such an organisation.
By the way, before you start, I am not a JW.
Sami
Jehovah Witness are traitors. They do not believe in supporting our troops who are fighting for their own freedom. Why should they have any rights they dion’t stand for freedom.
satan is called the god of this world!!
So let me get this Straight…
The Watchtower preaches that there are TWO GODS?
Please clarify.
Yes my blind-follower, we do care about truth. If you did as well, you would ensure that all the teachings & doctrines of your God the Watchtower are truthful & correct before preaching to others subjects you clearly know nothing about.
ONLY JEHOVAH IS CALLED THE ALMIGHTY GOD, JESUS WAS ONLY CALLED MIGHTY GOD
yes my apostate friend ant, there are many diff translations written by others than the watchtower, that say the logos was divine or a god, or was in gods likeness. you just choose to believe what you want because your stuborn, you dont care about truth, only yourself!
Chris,
Watch this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZpScLCMqEk
I am afraid to say that if any of these occurrances happened to any of my children, there would not be a stone for the perpetrators to hide under. They would be running for the rest of their righteous lives.
Markus.
Chris,
This is just the type of ignorance I cannot help but expose.
The definition of paedophile (UK), or pedophile (US) is:
A person, especially a man, who is sexually interested in children.
What you are defining is a conspiracy, you cannot even spell pedophile, how do you expect to define it?
As hard as it may be for you to accept, it HAS occurred that senior members of the Jehovah’s Witnesses are accused of the above said atrocity, but rather than go ahead with the investigations, they step back and threaten the accusers of being disfellowshipped as otherwise their precious organization may be put under scrutiny; in my opinion a loathsome reaction.
As this would come as a shock to you, and obviously you would rather choose to ignore it, or say it is false, do a google search on ‘Jehovah’s Witness pedophile or paedophile’. Just because your beloved Watchtower never mentions these issues, it does not mean that they never occurred, because they have, time and time over, as you will find out.
Markus
The JW faith is not teaching that pedophilia is okay nitwit. What they are doing is protecting them by not fully cooperating with the local laws (much of the time) & do not wish to engage any police matters that will potentially reflect badly on their image. With the Watchtower it’s all about image and their protection of it, even if it means the damage of their children at the hands of these bastards hiding among your faith.
http://www.silentlambs.com
Yes if you wish to irresponsibly shout your mouth off on a subject you are totally clueless regarding, then that’s okay as long as you understand that many of us couldn’t care less about the image of that false prophet the Watchtower.
http://www.silentlambs.com
We do not need to say anymore.
I could sit her and explain to you how God the Son, Jesus Christ is both the Son of God, and the Almighty God himself. But without faith my friend, you will never believe…
Both the Old Testament and New Testament show that Christ was God. But you read and do not believe…
Many prophesies of the Old Testament clearly show that GOD THE ALMIGHTY was going to His people.
Read Isaiah 9:6
“For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace”
This is a prophecy about Christ’s birth…
I will say to you what Christ said to many…
“Those who have ears, let him hear”
Open your ears my friend…Christ is God. God is Trinity. Christ was both Man and God. 100% God. 100% man. He prayed to the Father because he was a Man. He performed miracles because He was God.
You want more proofs? Let me know…
The Bible says Jesus is Gods Son lets take a quick look at the definition of the word son. Son: “1. a male child or person in relation to his parents. If Jesus is God himeself then why did Jesus pray? Why would almighty God need to pray to himself? Even when Jesus desiples were asleep Jesus prayed he also prayed for power when confronted with the demonised man at the graveyard. Jesus also prayed to God when he was baptised.. and the Holy Spirit descended upon Him in bodily form like a dove, and a voice came out of heaven, “You are My beloved Son, in You I am well-pleased” Luke 3:22 So when Jesus was being Baptised it clearly says ” THIS IS MY SON” it don’t say this is myself. Notice it also says ” A VOICE CAME OUT OF HEAVEN” Jesus was in the river jordan when he was baptised by John he wasn’t in heaven at the time. So even a five year old kid knows the difference between what a father and son is who are you trying to fool?
Pediphile conspiracy? Here is the definition: 1: an evil, unlawful, treacherous, or surreptitious plan formulated in secret by two or more persons; plot.
2: a combination of persons for a secret, unlawful, or evil purpose:
Where is the unlawfulness of the JW org here on pediphiles? Just because they didn’t pass out names and addresses of alleged pediphiles in there org don’t mean there conspiring anything. Did Jesus say only some sinners can be forgivin or did he pick and choose the sins? All religions have a few bad apples even Jesus had Judas. There are thousands of convicted child molestors out there many that are not Jehovah Witnesses but are Priests and members of other churches so to try and condemn an intire religion based on the independent bad acts of a few is rediculas. If The JW religion was teaching that child molestation is ok then you can hold the religion at fault but the fact is nothing in there teachings support this type of behaviour and furthurmore if your child is molested and you don’t call the law your breaking the law so next time call the cops and not a elder if theres a crime.
Pediphiles You say. I have never read any news artical showing the Jehovah witnesses or Watchtower Society try to physically stopy the police from arresting a alleged JW for child abuse. The Kingdom hall is not a Police Station nor is the Watchtower and Tract Society. If a child is molested you call the police not a elder not a church not a kingdom hall. This is a Religious group not a law inforcement facility and besides. What about all the other crimes like murder and drug trafficing? I don’t see the churches sending out fliers for the crimes of there members do you?
There the devils people!
Not Gods!
Calling Christ their savior doesnt make them Gods people. And walking around and “preaching” their so called word of God doesnt make them Gods people.
They are preaching the wrong things.
1. Christ is NOT the archangel Michael.
2. Gods name is not Jehovah. GOD DOESNT HAVE A NAME! God said to Moses…”I AM WHO I AM” That is His name…that is what the hebrew word YHWH means…from which the DUMB JW translated it from. Its not the name Jehovah…it is translated …”He who is”. GO LOOK IT UP!
3. Christ did not only rise in Spirit. He rose in the body!
4. JW do not have a history leading back to the Apostles.
5. We will not live on earth and only 144000 in heaven.
I can keep going…i hope your getting the picture!
One word for JW…CULT!
No my friend.
Only the translation that was made by the Watchtower.
If you get someone to read that to you from the Greek texts, which it was written in, it says…”and the Word was God.”
The watchtower is really screwing with your head. Do you just take in everything they shove into your mouth or do you ensure its a correct teaching?
there are probabally 50 diff translations that say, and the word was a god
What are they using now my friend?
Each to his own my friend.
Im not going to try and show you God exists…but please dont confuse me for a JW.
Chubby or Bucky is that why the Jw’s translated their own bible? So that the uneducated (jehovahs witnesses) can understand the bible? I think you made a great point.
To Antochian,
Wrong. Wrong, Wrong. The only bible used by the originators of the Bible and Tract Society of Pensylvania,…JW’s.. was the King James Version.
The bibles are the same but nowadays the use of idiomatic language is the norm. It’s so that the uneducated amongst us (ahem) are able to better understand the meanings.
Who gives a rat’s behind if Jesus is God?
We only know one thing for sure about Jesus.
No doubt he was a Jew! 30 years old, still single and living at home with his mother. No question in my mind whatsoever he was a Jew?
Anonymous…for a non-JW you seem to love defending them. Do you honestly know anything about them??
When i say that not all Bible Translations are the same and the Watchtower created their own translation to suite their teachings, i dont mean the small words like thou, or ye or wat ever else…i mean the meaning of the Bible.
The watchtower translation denies that CHRIST IS GOD. You read all the verses from the Origianl Greek translation and you see that all the verses confirm that CHRIST IS OUR TRUE GOD have been changed in the watchtower translation. WHY?? Because they always taught that Christ was only a creature, but the translation they used at the time the Watchtower began said other wise.
So what did they do?? Verses like John 1:1 – “In the begining was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.”
What does the watchtower transaltion say? “…and the Word was ‘a’ God”
This is only one example. There are many…if you want to know them ill give them to you…just ask.
So you see this has a different meaning…you cannot deny that.
So yes, the watchtower did create their own translation to suite their teachings.
What if I dont believe in the word of God (bible). Will you sue me???
fri,
I am not a JW my friend.
Im Anitochian Orthodox.
You speak like you dont belive in the word of God. Or maybe your just trying to make a point.
how come it says there is no pain or pleasure in sheol?
niether does the watchtower
yes, by By their fruits you shall know these men. False prophesies, harbouring child molestors. WT does all that!