Watchtower take legal action against site that quotes their Quotes!

September 29th, 2005 | Posted in: , Watchtower & Money | Keywords: , , | 128 Comments



Jehovah\'s Witnesses sue Offender

The WatchTower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania have initiated legal proceedings against Peter Mosier, who has been displaying “Quotes” from the Jehovah’s Witnesses publication on his website.

Peter Mosier’s site http://quotes.watchtower.ca has used excerpts from the WatchTower’s own religious literature, which has been printed and distributed free of charge for many years.

The law suit seeks a reported $100,000 in damages and a court order to silence the website.

The site in question carries a notice (in red) that states: “This research and information web site is devoted to collecting and preserving interesting and/or significant quotes from the publications of the Watch Tower Society, without additional commentary or editorial, for the purpose of scholarship and research. The quotes are accurate and verifiable, however this web site is neither affiliated with nor endorsed by Watch Tower Society.”

We understand that Peter Mosier is a former Jehovah’s Witness.

The Jehovah’s Witnesses are often considered a “cult” by many and it is not unusual to see former Jehovah’s Witnesses speaking out against this organization. It is true that they have many traditions and rules that most find strange, and in some cases unacceptable.

Our other site (Profindpages) has written a number of articles on Jehovah’s Witnesses, in particular their ban in Moscow. Covering this topic has brought us into close contact with many of its followers and we have to say that we find most of them very nice people.

However, the objections that most people have of this organization is not so much of the people that support it, but the people that run it (The Watchtower). They have been criticized for putting profit at the top of their list of priorities and there is no question that the company does indeed make a lot of money.

Is Peter Mosier just quoting quotes? Yes and No. The quotes he uses are genuine extracts from quotations found in the Watchtower’s literature, but of course he is selecting the quotes that he feels are the most interesting from his point of view.

Some of the quotations used go way back and a few have been taken from books that are no longer being printed.

One could say that Peter Mosier is “manipulating” the Watchtowers own information, but why are they so “embarrassed”, or perhaps afraid, of having these quotations published? Are the “words” of the past no longer the words of today?

The Watchtower has been accused many times of “changes” in its history and you have to wonder what other areas might be wrong and in need of change?

Many of the rules (for want of a better word) in the Jehovah’s Witnesses organization are quite good. They are against wars and follow many morally correct beliefs. Whilst there are a few “bad apples” in the faith, this is true of many other religions as well.

We tend to agree with many others that the strongest problems Jehovah’s Witnesses face is often created by their own leaders. Whilst no one expects them to change their basic beliefs, there are many areas that could be “updated” to better fit in with an ever changing world. The objections that many have to this religion are usually caused by a lack of understanding of the faith and the people who follow it.

This image could be improved if the organization was perhaps run more like a religion and less like a business? If the Watchtower are “embarrassed” about quotes from their own literature being published (in whatever form), perhaps there is something wrong with the quotations in the first place? No one is perfect in this world (certainly not humans) and there is no disgrace in admitting to errors. Surely, Jehovah’s Witnesses will not think less of the Watchtower if they accept that some older literature was less than correct and change it, some would probably see this as an act of strength not weakness. Do they think the organization will crumble if they admit to being human?

Perhaps the best option would be to correct the areas that create criticism, rather than try to gag those that are critical. This tactic is not so different to the way the Soviet Union was run. Censoring people’s views usually indicates there is something to hide!

Our article is not meant as an attack on those that belong to this faith, but we are concerned that the large number of decent, honest and trusting members involved are given the respect they have earnt with their loyalty.

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Comment by DrinyDiluer (Comment ID: 288659)

I’d prefer reading in my native language, because my knowledge of your languange is no so well. But it was interesting! Look for some my links:



Posted on December 17, 2007 at 11:32 pm

 

Comment by DrinyDiluer (Comment ID: 286008)

I’d prefer reading in my native language, because my knowledge of your languange is no so well. But it was interesting!



Posted on December 8, 2007 at 3:37 am


Comment by Anonymous (Comment ID: 286036)

wow, you mange to to post the same information 9 times. Among from other problems do you suffer from Copy and Paste?



Posted on December 8, 2007 at 4:02 am

 
 

Comment by Anonymous (Comment ID: 256541)

”You will have to know the truth and the truth will set you free” John 8 verse 32 All the above indicates the prophetic word at Matthew 24 verse 12 is taking place that is “because of the increasing of lawlessness the love of the greater number will cool off”. Has not the above caused a “Cooling off”? But if the “Constant feature” of all “Organized Religion” was removed that conducted itself in error would the “cooling off” come to an end? For instance note verse 14 that followed the end would come after the good news preaching”. Hence preaching which Jehovah’s Witnesses are known for is a requirement however “lawlessness lead to cooling off” but endurance to end in faith is the one whom can be saved according to verse 13!

So “knowing the truth sets us free” from apostasy but endurance to the end is required regardless of Organizational error of any Governing Body, true?

So APOSTLE Peter put it this way “what sort of people ort you PROVE TO BE”.

Encourage all faithful persons to “put error of those whom conduct themselves in error behind and focus on your faith and endure to the end and mark apostate criticism with apostate teaching from God’s Word!

At the end of the day who can change such ones on both sides of apostasy? In event an Organized Governing Body Apostasies from scripture and marks those whom point out their error or whether some others whom unfoundedly criticise Jehovah’s Witnessing teaching it is only God’s Word as revealed to the “Discreet slave class” feeding the correction “food” that is approved by their master when he arrives at Matthew 24 and Luke 12 that will be rewarded.

Hence which one of those whom posted a entry either on this web sight or on Jehovah’s Witnesses Official Web sight are Christ Jesus hence remember we all have to be approved yet? Humility dicatates patience and endurance.

It could hardly be argued that the Watchtower and its Governing Body are not standing on shaky ground if it rests on its own virtues and clings to “Doctrines of men” when Jesus in Matthew 15 rightly condemned such as “that form of worship being futile”. It is of note that the District Convention of Jehovah’s Witnesses is claiming to be qualified to teach others of how to “Follow Christ” coming soon to a location near you. The question arises how do they justify their having taken legal action against “Peter Mosier” when Christ said leave them alone it seems like they may well have identified whom their real “Spiritual Farther is”?

The problem mainstream Jehovah’s Witnesses have is where do they go when the society are quick to point out the scripture Christ said when many left him when he said “You have the sayings of everlasting life”. Hence the sayings “of everlasting life” is a powerful tool against leaving and as commented above the Book “Paradise Restored” published 1972 Chapter 20 from paragraphs 41 through to 44 gives a good supportive account that the mentioned “abuse of power” of it seems the Organization Governing Body is about to come to its completition. The short anwser stay put!

It points out that those within “God’s household of faith turn on their faithful brothers in an abuse of power”. The response above (near top comments) highlighting this information does emphasis “an abuse of power”. It could hardly then apply to those accused of being ex-witnesses because they are not in power hence the earlier explanation if correct does point to actions consistent with the Governing Body of Jehovah’s Witnesses wielding such power.

What happened to “Peter Mosier” and others only serves to add to their own advises and their own earlier “flash of spiritual light” given what they did to Peter Mosier it would follow they would not want the Truth to set the “Domestics free” in Matthew 24 verse 45 from the “Truth of their own actions outside the congregations in courts of law against their former brothers or in failing to apply the Golden Rule “DO Unto Others What they would want Did TO Them” the teaching Christ Jesus taught hence the District Convention Theme is “Follow Christ” may be quite interesting how they may develop that with a clear conscience?

It’s the “Good News” to be preached not legal action to prevent exposure of Organizational Teaching that may have taught errors in Good News?

The “Wicked slave” is noted for its beating of its fellow brothers as pointed out only the Organization is in a position to actually beat their brothers “but now the truths out to set free”.

The other witnesses accordingly are not evidently held bloodguilty for Organizational beating from Governing Body as the scriptures in Luke 12 show clearly those doing the beating get cut of hence the days of such structure are numbered by their own willful actions but the average Jehovah’s Witnesses it seems will be spared only its leaders are to be judged!

When a similar situation occurred in Jesus day “he said leave them alone a blind man cannot guide a blind man” so hence this as well condemns their actions against Peter Mosier taking him to court and seeking to silence him. Additionally Jesus stated the rule to apply “watch out for the leaven” which equated to corrupt teaching of religious leaders in his day which still is as relevant in our day to the religious teaches of Jehovah’s Witnesses must be “marked as leaven” if proven wrong. Also Jesus in keeping did not condemn the common people but just merely stated “watch out for the leaven” hence Jesus himself gives the answer to retain your faith as Jehovah’s Witnesses and “watch out for any leaven in congregational meetings until Jesus Arrives and may remove such in accordance with the above and how “Paradise Restored” Book chapter 20 paragraph 43-44 indicates he will cut of such leaven as indicated.

Hence encourage all Jehovah’s Witnesses to remain faithful and all ex-Jehovah’s Witnesses to revise your faith and no longer need to criticise errors of the Organization Teaching and stumble and fall victim to Matthew 24 verse 12 “love fall away” but rather “endure to the end to get saved” along with your former brothers and sisters “whom are preaching the good news”. Both you and them cannot change what the Organization of Jehovah’s Witnesses are doing as their book correctly pointed out in 1972 it was inevitable that an “abuse of power” was to arrive signalling that the time for Divine Intervention is almost arrived to remove “constant feature of Oppressive Organized Religion a trade mark of Babylon the Great spoken of in Revelation chapter 17 and that God was going to put it into the hearts of “leaders” verse 17 to attack and devastate her and in event the Organization of Jehovah’s Witnesses do not repent of their former sins then their complaint is not with man but Jehovah God their God. If they refuse to separate from holding onto Organization Governing Body like Christendom when Revelation 18 verse 4 states get out of her that is their choice.

This also harmonizes with fact that the “blood of the holy ones and with the blood of the ones bearing witness to Jesus” in Revelation 17 verse 6 may point to them by their actions of first attacking those anointed that point out their error so their symbolic blood is spilt. This in no way removes the blood guilt of all other Organized religion being a part of the blood spilling.

Secondly by keeping those in the congregations under their control concealing their sins from them by insisting upon only what comes from the Governing Body is from God they in doing so symbolically may be seen that these even so do “bear witnesses to Jesus” in their witnessing work but are symbolically spilling their blood as it were by conducting them in error. From God’s point of view they may be likened to being “drunk” with religious error for instance if the Governing Body Doctrine is repeated in publications over 2000 times will it not become like a branding iron in their consciences that they never question it or game to.

This also harmonizes with the fact it is a religious harlot Organization containing all such types of religion and it is this that constitutes the harlot because of its controlling influence.

Hence at Revelation 18 verse 4 God asks all to come out of all such Controlling Organized Religion and the account of the “Wicked Slave” and above means “mark wrong teaching” being aware that God searches “hearts not heads” and he can see if you have marked a wrong doctrine so in this way you can remain a Jehovah’s Witness but “mark wrong doctrine”.

This would mean you refrain from giving answers at meetings upon doctrines your conscience to God may be troubled over and wait for God and the judging as in above book.

Those in other Organized religion may leave such and attend meetings of Jehovah’s Witnesses to learn more about the basic teachings of the Bible and mark the Governing Body teaching or Organizational teaching in event it is not scriptural from your “personal” study.

Jehovah searches hearts and knows your dedication when it may take place in event cannot be baptised due to this fact prepare yourself when the time is right for any removal of that which is restricting your baptism being done away the removal of the Organizational Governing Body and each one give according to your heart scripturally to those in need fiscally.

Jehovah is a just God he will not put it off indefinitely and he will discipline his people! Judgement starts with the “house of God” Bethel means “House of God”, so the scriptures foretold that Bethel will be judged “First” then all other religion follow’s rather than the Watchtower claiming approval first.

To those whom have disassociated wait for God he will not be late apply Bible Principles and if have fallen from your dedication rekindle your faith based upon current events point to intervention as pointed out in the “Paradise Restored” book of Jehovah’s Witnesses 1972.

Remember only those “whom endure to the end get saved”, Matthew 24:13. Use this time to make sure of your Christ like personality is conforming to God’s Word and Standards within his word and avoid judging leave that to the one whom is able to save and destroy and “mark false teaching if leaven”. Avoid being critical of others just merely identify if an error exists.

Psalm 27:14 says “Wait on the LORD [Jehovah]; Be of Good Courage, And He shall strengthen Your Heart; Wait, I say, on the LORD [Jehovah]! “



Posted on August 9, 2007 at 9:22 am

 

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