Watchtower Society visits Apostate Website!

February 27th, 2002 | Posted in: , JWs vs. the World | Keywords: , , , , | 12 Comments




By Rado Vleugel
Webmaster Watchtower Information Service

The ancient Chinese tactic Sun Tzu who lived 2,500 years ago once said: “If you know your enemy and yourself, you will win every battle.” Even though the Watchtower Society (WTS) forbids its members to know their enemy, the Society itself listens to this old wisdom as shown by Watchtower Information Service’ site statistics. The WTS is a regular visitor of my site. Sometimes the brothers on Brooklyn Bethel visit my site on two successive days (see fig 1 & 2)!


Fig. 1 -Screenshot of Watchtower Information Service’s site statistics on 02-25-2002 (some parts are obscured)

wtbst.org (Watchtower Bible and Tract Society) is a domain used by the WTS. There is currently no website available on www.wtbts.org

Domain info taken from www.allwhois.com:

wtbts.org
Request: wtbts.org

Registrant:
Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of New York, Inc. (WTBTS-DOM)
25 Columbia Heights
Brooklyn, NY 11201-2483
US


Fig. 2 -Screenshot of Watchtower Information Service’s site statistics on 02-26-2002 (some parts are obscured)

Although I don’t see the WTS as my enemy, Watchtower Information Service is, in the definition of the Watchtower, an apostate website. And an apostate is in the eyes of the Organisation a dangerous enemy. In the October 1, 1993 Watchtower on page 19 we read:

“Regarding them, the psalmist said: “Do I not hate those who are intensely hating you, O Jehovah, and do I not feel a loathing for those revolting against you? With a complete hatred I do hate them. They have become tome real enemies.” (Psalm 139:21, 22) It was because they intensely hated Jehovah that David looked on them with abhorrence. Apostates are included among those who show their hatred of Jehovah by revolting against him. Apostasy is, in reality, a rebellion against Jehovah. Some apostates profess to know and serve God, but they reject teachings or requirements set out in his Word. Others claim to believe the Bible, but they reject Jehovah’s organization and actively try to hinder its work. When they deliberately choose such badness after knowing what is right, when the bad becomes so ingrained that it is an inseparable part of their makeup, then a Christian must hate (in the Biblical sense of the word) those who have inseparably attached themselves to the badness. True Christians share Jehovah’s feelings toward such apostates; they are not curious about apostate ideas. On the contrary, they “feel a loathing” toward those who have made themselves God’s enemies, but they leave it to Jehovah to execute vengeance.”

From a tactical viewpoint it’s logical that the WTS is keeping an eye on apostate websites. I comprehend that. But it isn’t fair that some brothers on Brooklyn Bethel are allowed to monitor websites run by former Witnesses while the rank and file Jehovah’s Witnesses may not even touch so called apostate material. With buzz words like “spiritual pornography” and “dining at the table of demons”, Jehovah’s Witnesses are warned against information provided by former members and others who don’t share the doctrine of the Watchtower.

Will the brothers on Brooklyn Bethel also check the latest porn sites so that they are better prepared to give “spiritual food at the proper time” about the dangers of pornography…



12 Comments

Comment by Maria Guiliani (Comment ID: 325018)

Trying to find Bruce Caughey Dozier



Posted on July 3, 2008 at 1:12 am


Comment by Anonymous (Comment ID: 378634)

Use Google



Posted on October 12, 2008 at 5:50 pm

 

Comment by Connie S (Comment ID: 387157)

Why does Maria G want to find Mr. Dozier????



Posted on October 27, 2008 at 7:51 pm


Comment by Anonymous (Comment ID: 391407)

Why is Connie S interested in why Maria G wants to find me?



Posted on November 10, 2008 at 6:10 am

 
 
 

Comment by Lyle (Comment ID: 297705)

You all are not alone. There are many cults like the JW’s. My family escaped from the Plymouth Brethren nearly 7 years ago. Our parents do not speak or acknowledge us. They will not see their great grandchildren or grandchildren.

If you are interested, our website for escapees is peebs.net.

I thank Jesus for our escape. I cried out to Him for understanding and He opened my eyes and the eyes of my family. Thankfully, all our children and my wife left at the same time.

May God encourage and bless all who have had the courage to leave the cults.



Posted on January 18, 2008 at 6:06 am

 

Comment by DrinyDiluer (Comment ID: 288498)

I’d prefer reading in my native language, because my knowledge of your languange is no so well. But it was interesting! Look for some my links:



Posted on December 17, 2007 at 7:49 pm

 

Comment by Voltaire (Comment ID: 72876)

Of course they are visiting your site and other sites that expose them for the brainwashed, enslaved false prophets that they are. I’m confident that they are assembling data to support a future lawsuit against any site that offers an opposing view to theirs. Personally, I would compile a list of all ip addresses and domains that these lamers come from, and ban them all at the firewall :)



Posted on November 5, 2006 at 8:31 am

 

Comment by James NON-JW (Comment ID: 2206)

Well if the WTS comes back to visit again, they might want to take a look at some of their finest JW’s on display here posting comments filled with hate, rage & absolute naivety.
Yes, they are doing an outstanding job all by themselves to ensure that anyone potentially interested in this JW religion to stay clear from it. For the JW’s, there’s nothing like shooting yourself in the foot is there?



Posted on February 17, 2006 at 2:23 pm

 

Comment by Sparky (Comment ID: 1774)

Dear Friends, Regarding what is called apostate reading material, that to which I was recently introduced was from former pioneers and Bethelites of my personal acquaintance. No finer or sober- minded persons they. After 40 years of devotion to the Society’s concepts, I now fully understand why we were warned to avoid outside materials; I even unplugged my computer two years ago after taking to heart admonition in the KM. My spiritual life has taken a “180″ and, as I contemplate my exit strategy, I prayerfully seek Jehovah’s direction through Jesus Christ. Losing friends and family will be heart-rending; losing income will be hard but Ed Dunlap, my teacher at Bethel, and Raymond Franz were cared for by our merciful God. I have never been so unafraid in all my life, Sparky



Posted on February 2, 2006 at 5:47 am


Comment by Clare (Comment ID: 1778)

Sparky

It is heart rendering to leave those you love behind. I ’slipped away’ five years ago; not after reading any ‘apostate’ literature but because in my heart I knew that if there was a creator he would not condone the things I saw being done to people and to myself. I was not brought up in the truth but had been a loyal follower for 20 years, and had been a regular pioneer.I always thought I’d go back; that it was me who was wrong, but last year I finally came to the right decision after many weeks of prayer and thought and only then did I start looking into the ‘banned’ sites. They only confirmed what I had already thought.

Luckily I was not disfellowshipped; I say ‘luckily’ because it means I can still see people on occasion, and more importantly I am avaliable to any who need help. I only see them a few times a year and try to be respectful; they ask me ‘where did you get your information from?’ when I point out matters about funding, sex abuse, and the covering up of serious police matters, and the U N controversy; I say to them ‘well you tell me where you got your information from?’. The fact is that unless you can personally substantiate information you cannot always rely on it. Of course we all trust a lot of what we hear from books newpapers etc, but the point is that the JW’s NEVER substantiate what they are taught; they NEVER then, are really searching for truth which takes more effort than reading from a watchtower and their version of the bible.

Since I have left I have become more spiritual than ever. The scriptures say that the law is written in our hearts, and Jesus said he was the end of the law and that the only law would be the ‘Golden Rule’ to love your neighbour and God as yourself’. The JW’s have become pharisees with all the rules and regs they order. Free will is diminished by such, but if grasped hold of brings with it a much greater personal responsibility than the JW’s could ever teach human kind. Free will does not mean you just do what you want to do, but if you want to,
you can as long as you are prepared to accept the responsibility. We all know what is bad for us; it is up to us to decide what we will avoid, but without making everyone’s life around us miserable. Since I have left I have not been ‘hell bent’ on doing what I always wanted to; in fact I have done more rights than wrongs and definately less wrongs since I left them! I pray, I study using academic bibles with no religious slant, and I love this world and the people in it, for good or bad, more now than ever. If the supreme being has a plan, and he is the perfect creator, he will not let one life be lost even if he has to ultimately discipline us. This is where I’m at now. I am not on the fence; I will not join organized religion ever again, and I am happier for it and hope that you too will be able to regain a peace of mind.



Posted on February 2, 2006 at 5:10 pm


Comment by James NON-JW (Comment ID: 2018)

Clare, you are right on the money. If you have seen some of my other posted comments, you will realize that we see eye to eye on these matters.
I have for years tried to get JW’s to understand that it’s okay to practice spirituality, they do not need an earthly liason to God. However we all know that they are so brainwashed, they cannot comprehend what we are talking about.

God bless and all the best,
James



Posted on February 12, 2006 at 3:33 am

 

Comment by Clare too (Comment ID: 330393)

Hmmm… I love your comment at the end. I came “from the world’, I loved God & Jesus & was so amazed at what I learned about the traditions most Christians follow, the truth about the trinity etc that I am still convinced that in terms of “christianity” the JW’s still have it 90% right. But after nearly 10 years, my relationship with God is dead, there is no joy, I am tired of feeling pressured to go witnessing, to subdue my need to enjoy life, experience life, to develop my potential. I do not want to be grey. I want to be bright & colorful, happy, laughing, shouting “life” just as Jehovah’s creation does. My problem is that through me my husband is also baptised, so dropping a bombshell like “I do not want to be part of this conformist, sexist religion anymore” will be quite dramatic & probably cause quite an issue. I thought JW’s were perfect but they are not - they still have affairs, beat their wives, molest kids. So as for this being the “only true religion” with “fruits” proving it so - well lets say I have become rather disillusioned. I am not sure what to do - gradually withdraw, still read the literature (which is mostly brilliant), try build up a loving, trusting relationship with my Creator & as you put it - trust in His plan. The idea of doing housework for 1000 years in eternal life doesn’t appeal to me anyway so I am not too bothered with the hereafter. Neither would I like to spend eternity with most of the JW’s I know. They are a clique & do not mix well with newies (even after all this time). There are a few loving, precious gems….

Big decisions but I hope I find joy, learn to love myself ( not in a selfish, vain way but in an accepting way). I hope to find that love & passion for my Creator too. Unfortunately I will probably lose those few gems as close friends. Oh well!

By the way, I only saw your name was Clare too after I read your letter. Funny hey?



Posted on July 22, 2008 at 2:07 pm

 
 
 

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