Sons of Jehovah’s Witnesses return from Iraq without welcome

November 6th, 2005 | Posted in: , JWs vs. the World | Keywords: , , , | 181 Comments



Jehovah\'s Witnesses and the war in Iraq Two brothers, Jason and Johel Woodliff, came back from Iraq with their comrades in a Marine Corps battalion that lost 48 members, greeted by a mile-long parade attended by thousands of strangers.

But not by their family.

Thomas and Mia Woodliff, who are devout Jehovah’s Witnesses, were so upset by their sons’ decisions to join the Marine Reserves that they did not meet them at the airport upon their return last month.

“I begged my mother to come, but I knew she wouldn’t,” Johel said. “Several families know our situation and have taken us under their wing. My mom knows I’ll always have love for her. I believe love is unconditional.”

His brother is less forgiving.

“What’s the most important thing in the Bible? Love and family,” Jason asked. “It’s not like I blasphemed God or worshipped the devil. It’s just ridiculous to me.”

In a written statement, Thomas and Mia Woodliff respond:

“We love our sons and are saddened that they have expressed public disappointment regarding what should be a private, family matter, that is, our choice not to attend the recent homecoming party for the 3rd Battalion, 25th Marines. As you know, we are Jehovah’s Witnesses and are neutral as to the political and military affairs of the world. We base our beliefs on Scriptures such as John 17:14, 16, Matthew 5:43, 44 and Matthew 26:52 among others. This means we are neither for nor against the political involvements of the 200-plus nations that we can be found in. This does not mean that we do not love the land in which we live, or that we disrespect the government or those in authority. We recognize that each nations ruling authority has the right to enact and enforce laws, make foreign policy and to purse its own sovereign interests. We simply choose not to participate.

However, we are generally known as exemplary taxpayers and citizens and we try to follow the laws of the land to the extent that our Bible-trained conscience will individually permit. Which leads us to the main point of our statement. Our two sons were taught to be peace-loving followers of Jesus Christ. Instead, they have chosen a different path. We respect their right to chose whatever lifestyle they wish. And we hope one day for reconciliation so that we can be a united family again. We have many fond memories of the abundant good times we shared together. In the meantime, please be assured that the current difference in point of view, and the separation in ties that has occurred as a result, does not mean that we love our children less.”

Graduates of Washington High School in Massillon, the Woodliffs said they had a strict upbringing based on their parents’ faith, and that the real trouble began when they announced their intentions to become Marines.

“When they found out I wanted to join, they were very upset about it,” said Johel, 20, who turned down a college scholarship to join the Marines in 2003. “I let them know that as I grew older, I had done some research on the religion, and that it didn’t abide with my beliefs.”

Jason, 23, claims that when he informed his parents in 2004 that he too intended to join the Marines, he was asked to leave the house.

“I was 18 years old, living by myself in a trailer,” he said. “I haven’t had a conversation with my dad in five years. For him, it’s 100 percent about the religion.”

Though the Bible is filled with accounts of battles and war imagery, J.R. Brown, director of public information for the Watchtower Bible Tract Society, confirmed that Jehovah’s Witnesses don’t participate in military service based on their interpretation of Scripture, and that the actions of the Woodliffs’ parents are consistent with the faith.

“As Christians, we’re neutral with respect to the conflicts that nations have,” he said. “Our neutrality is just in regards to conflicts of men. This doesn’t mean we’re adversaries. We try to (convey) that to the person as best we can, but because they’re usually partisan, they think we’re against them. That’s not the case. We’re truly neutral.”

Brown noted that numerous U.S. court decisions have recognized members’ right to neutrality.

“We’re not be feared,” Brown said, adding that the church is merely adhering to Jesus’ admonition to, “Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar’s and unto God, the things that are God’s.”

Brown acknowledged that family members who enter the military voluntarily, risk “disassociation.”

“We as an organization or local congregation do not initiate this action,” he explained. “Rather than ‘disfellowship,’ we use ‘disassociation’ as a term. That means the individual made a conscientious decision that he or she would no longer ascribe to the principles that we do. He or she has decided to take a side; the individual has left the position of ‘neutral.’ We look at disassociation as accepting the person’s decision to take a side.”

Given that the faith places a great deal of emphasis on the family, Brown concedes that others might see the policy as contradictory.

“It depends on how you look at your Christian responsibility,” he said. “We look at our responsibility before God as our first and foremost responsibility. As our creator, he comes first. We feel our position of neutrality is based on our love for him. If a family member does not accept the same decision, we feel they have to bear the consequences. It pains us. We’re human too.”

Brown said members must prioritize their allegiances.

“You have to decide who’s first in your life, is it God more than any human?” he said. “The fact is, we do not even put ourselves and our own interests ahead of God. He’s our creator. Our allegiance is first to him. In making that decision, it does at times create problems within the family. Husbands, wives, parents can be torn; there’s love there. But the apostle said we must obey God as ruler rather than man.”

The Woodliff brothers say they consider themselves nondenominational but still fervently believe in God. Johel Woodliff carries a camouflage Bible and wears a medallion of St. Michael, the warrior angel, on a chain with his dog tags.

“There are Scriptures written all over Iraq,” Johel said. “My favorite is John 15:13.”

“War shouldn’t be necessary, but war has existed since the beginning of man,” he said. “The Bible speaks of war constantly. King David was one of the greatest warriors. It shouldn’t be a necessity, but it’s a reality.”

Based on Associated Press and cantonrep.com articles



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Comment by jessica (Comment ID: 365288)

i know that the parents do not believe in or support the war but couldn’t they just have met their sons at the airport to give them warmth of a familiar face.



Posted on September 24, 2008 at 6:15 pm

 

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Posted on September 20, 2008 at 6:46 pm

 

Comment by Paul (Comment ID: 361806)

I expect a lot of others are now returning home from Iraq or Afganistan and not recieving a heros welcome. A victory parade should only happen after a victory. You may still loose

What is significant about 1975?



Posted on September 18, 2008 at 3:20 pm


Comment by Jones (Comment ID: 362067)

Paul, I read and reread the article. I don’t think the parade for these young men was a “victory” parade. Those attending and honoring these men were welcoming them home. Big difference. There was an opportunity to be jubilant because they made it home alive. What is wrong with that? Who knows, maybe freedom of religion will come to that region and you will have an opportunity to spread your “gospel” to that country. Those fine young men had a hand in making it possible. I am just glad that someone has embraced them and welcomed them into their lives.

The only thing I can think of that is significant about 1975 is that it came and went and the end did not come as was predicted by the JW. Can you add anything to that?



Posted on September 19, 2008 at 12:14 am


Comment by Margaret (Comment ID: 387346)

The road to truth is paved with honest mistakes. I still find everything unfolding as the witnesses always said it would unfold. One thing is for sure, Armageddon has to come before world war three, or there’ll be nothing left to judge, or to survive into Christ’s thousand year reign.

Please ask me about the significance of 1914, because that’s still a main anchor of mine. They hit, and hit good.
The year, the season of the year, and the event.

Another anchor is they treat the name of Jehovah as significant, and globally bannered it. Margaret.



Posted on October 28, 2008 at 8:24 am


Comment by Anonymous (Comment ID: 387410)

Margaret please do tell us about the significante of 1914.



Posted on October 28, 2008 at 12:37 pm

 
 
 

Comment by Margaret (Comment ID: 387344)

It may have been an honest mistake, or partially one. I’m still not sure, all I know is I don’t recall much hoopla about it at the time. The road to truth is paved with honest mistakes.

We believe 1975 was the begining of the last thousand years, of the last 7 thousand years of the 7th day…which began shortly after creation was finished. (whew, sorry.) Since Christ’s reign is to be a thousand years, we thought everything would have finished unfolding at that time.

Now, ask me what’s significant about 1914. Because that’s one of my main anchors. Margaret



Posted on October 28, 2008 at 8:16 am

 
 

Comment by Jason (Comment ID: 344552)

Read John Ch1 V1 it speaks the truth In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. V14 says that And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory the glory as of the only begotten of the Father full of grace and truth.

For I’m a member of this United States Military and my wife is now a returning member of this religion. Her beliefs do not coexist with mine and that it is not easy coming home and expressing my love for God.



Posted on August 20, 2008 at 10:29 am

 

Comment by Jason (Comment ID: 344551)

Read John Ch1 V1 it speaks the truth In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. V14 says that And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory the glory as of the only begotten of the Father full of grace and truth.

For I’m a member of this United States Military and my wife is now a returning member of this religion. Her beliefs do not coexist with mine and that it is not easy coming home and expressing my love for God.



Posted on August 20, 2008 at 10:29 am

 

Comment by annonymous (Comment ID: 324539)

This is interesting article that the witnesses flout neutrality like a badge of honor showing their faithfulness to god. I wonder why neutrality is more important in service to god then love for family which is also in the bible. Could it be that neutrality is more controversial and a way to show outwardly ones “faithfulness” or “works”? I am sure the congregation where these parents attend are aflutter with discussions about how “strong” these parents are…a great way to be a martyr…

Anyway, it is ridiculous that the parents said “We respect their right to choose whatever lifestyle they wish. And we hope one day for reconciliation so that we can be a united family again.” Between the lines they are saying we are hopeful our children feel pressured enough to return to the religion of their parents so there can be reconciliation. As we all know that is the only way the parents would agree to talk to their sons again, if the children make a different “choice.”

One more question for anyone who may wish to consider: since when is respect for ones choices include social pressure to recant that choice?



Posted on June 29, 2008 at 10:15 pm


Comment by KRYS (Comment ID: 330416)

YOU SHOULD REALLY THINK ABOUT WHAT YOUR SAYING.
Not only is your moral compass wrong, you seem to have loss the ability to think logically



Posted on July 22, 2008 at 4:37 pm

 
 

Comment by annointed Elakim (Comment ID: 322415)

I’m just wondering If The Watchtower insist on keeping there non blood commitment and if so many witnesses have lost there lives folowing there so called divine direction why have’nt they taken some of the millions of dollars in donations and invested it to aid the development of non blood alternatives .Surely by now over the course of several decades they could have contributed tens of millions of dollars to medical or likewise institutions to aid these sincere hospital staff in there quest to preserve life instead just sending a bunch of mumbling fumbling uneducated bigots to challenge people in the hospitals at these critical life threatining occurences ,I promise the High court judges will ask these very questions when members of watchtower body are brought on trial and charged.surely the preservation of life of Jesus {sheep}
would take economic premis over all other monetry desicions including the building of those Kingdom halls and buying new cars for there CO ’s



Posted on June 20, 2008 at 6:21 am


Comment by KRYS (Comment ID: 330417)

It is for the benefit of all human life. And if you bother to do the medical research you will see that 95% of medical specialist agree totally that blood alternatives are better, though JW have been saying it for decades.
Do research before you voice your OPINION on things you seem to know nothing about.



Posted on July 22, 2008 at 4:40 pm


Comment by jeorge munoz (Comment ID: 333273)

arguments and words on who’s right or wrong does’nt help the reality of the need of money and research to save as many lives as possible in a bloodless operation, it is allways easy to throw the stone to sambody else than to to take responsabilities for our desitions. on whom its to pay for all the seervices rendered to the pacient. if the burden falls only to the tax payers what about our society that allways preach tha jehova loves a giver. where’s the agape love?



Posted on July 26, 2008 at 10:34 pm


Comment by annointed Eliakim (Comment ID: 380385)

You are completely correct jeorge ,That was my point Why should tax payers or even private research money of blood alternatives as the Watchtower advocate so aggresively go toward preserving the lives of members of a religion whos hierachy are unwilling to contribute any money towards research or development of these products at all .it is because the wisdom of the world belongs to Satan except when there hypocritcal directors deem that they can gain manipilation and control by use of this wisdom then this so called worldly wisdom switches from Satan’s knowledge to become God’s provisions ,Beleive me in Legal fraternaties the Watchtower are on very fragile grounds at the moment because there moral arguement has become outdated and destructive to all .



Posted on October 16, 2008 at 6:45 am

 
 
 
 

Comment by carol horner (Comment ID: 316726)

when michael jackson got in all that trouble did his jw mom shunn michael No she was right there for him now that her son Jermane turned muslim and michael is studing to become muslim will their jw mom talk to them????



Posted on May 23, 2008 at 10:10 pm

 

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Posted on December 17, 2007 at 7:58 pm

 

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