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  1. otto marconi
    July 17th, 2010 at 03:20 | #1

    @julie swanson Dear Julie, the Towers of All Terrors will never have a comments board. Why? well, first of all with these worthy people everything’s gotta be on their terms.
    And the only term is this: a one-way monologue where they are a sort of faceless big-fucking-brother and the rest of the world the recipients of their horseshit.
    The only time I spoke to a jehovordure papier mache “authority” was during my “judicial hearings”.
    They never listened to me but for trying to pick up even the smallest word or nuance in order to nail me to some sort of “sin” or contradiction.
    this in order to tell me at the end of the hearings that I was lucky they could not kill me, because -they added- if we could we’d've done ya.
    yes, then they said they were sorry moses’ law and stoning to death was not possible anymore.
    this they told me in my own house, because at my place my dad wanted to have the book-crap-study and the room was also used for judicial shit.
    Yes, in my own house, these people -5 elders, told me I was lucky they could not kill me. and they meant it.
    But as a jehovordure i was the worst scum ever to crawl on earth, I own it, and like ALL jehovordures i deserved only to be erased from the face of the earth, thru the worst pains and humiliations, such was my own monstrosity due to belonging to such ghoulish organization.
    and even though i was never involved in any child rape activity like ALL the jehovordures (never even crossed my mind such horror) i nevertheless shared the responsibility of belonging to this child rape mob.
    for which i will regret it for-ever and i will be ashamed for ever.

  2. julie swanson
    July 16th, 2010 at 19:45 | #2

    Does the watchtower/JW have an online comment board/friend finder?
    Ive been searching since 1998 for my dear friend julie bosteder from
    saint louis missouri, last i heard from her she was living in kenniwick washington with her mother jane bosteder. Anyone who could get her my email address i would be much thankful to. bigfatmouthj@yahoo.com

  3. otto marconi
    July 13th, 2010 at 08:55 | #3

    @RM Dear RM do not break our BALLS. do not try to help any cockroach outta the Towers of All Terrors.
    they must stay in and get crushed, fucked, banged, degraded, debased, humiliated, shitted and pissed on in and thruout by the Holy Filthful and Disgraceful Slavebugger.
    till they crack and croak.
    this is because all jehovagina jehowhore jehovordures are:
    necrophiliacs
    mass murderers
    child rapists
    child corpses devourers and rapers
    graveyard ghouls and scrapers
    ANALGEDDON advocates
    planetary carnage advocates
    oceans of blood advocates
    shit eaters and shit worshipers
    and worst of all they are the shitty worshipers of the SHIT swine rotten squirt je-SHIT-hovah.
    the only good thing ya can do for your scumbag friend is to flush IT down the crapper.

    Honor and Glory to the Filthful and Disgraceful Slavebugger who enlightened as they are, crush such shit (their slaves known as jehovordures)like sewer cockroaches.

    Cheers

  4. RM
    July 12th, 2010 at 14:24 | #4

    Ed, wondering if you could help me with a diff. subject.
    I have a question that can only be answered by an insider, as I am not a JW. I’m currently trying to help some other “prisoners” escape, and need to know about something that seems to be hindering me. (It’s a Long story)
    Could you tell me anything about the what the “Talks is out” subject is? It is apparently mentioned in the April 2010 QB?
    Thank you so much if you (or anyone else) can help me!

  5. otto marconi
    June 18th, 2010 at 20:50 | #5

    @otto marconi and WHO crushes, debases, humiliates destroys, kills, murders and make ‘em (the jehovagina jehowhore je-SHIT-hovah jehovordures) to eat shit forever?
    it’s non other than the GLORIOUS Filthful and Disgraceful Slavebugger, because the job, work, mission and destiny of jehovordures’ governing bloody blody is to just do that.
    can’t you fucking understand this plain truth???

  6. otto marconi
    June 18th, 2010 at 20:44 | #6

    @Ed Edman Dear Ed, you’re totally misguided.
    I just wanna point out two sentences of your article/comment.
    the first one is this:
    “The Wt Soc has almost 7 million human shields – good people around a bad core. Hard to penetrate. True of many organizations.”
    good people around a bad core? are you fucking nuts? please my dear dickhead, do read my comments to get an idea of what kind of monsters are ALL jehovordures.
    the shit ya say is like saying: it was hitler that kille 6 millions of jews not the pieces of shit that carried out his orders. Well dickhead piece of shit, the motheterfuckers that actually gassed those people were worse than the insane shiteater they obeyed!!!

    the second crock of shit you said or reported is this:
    ” Press the Wt Soc hard and from every angle. Extend your sympathy as best you can to any decent JW.
    Offer what support they need to leave and to stay out.”

    as i said there’s NO FUFCKING DECENT jehovordure!!!! otherwise they wouldn’t fucking be jehovagina je-SHIT-hovah JEHOWHORE jehovordures!!!!
    And we DO NOT want such scum to leave the Towers of All Terrors, cos such cockroaches must be crushed, debased, humiliated destroyed, killed, murdered and made to eat shit forever cos they deserve such lot.
    above all, they are so into shiteating that they know nothing better to do.
    so let’s just leave this ghoulish plague into their enclosures and let the worst dregs of society sucked into their congros.
    DO YOU UNDERSTAND ED STUPIDO???

  7. Ed Edman
    June 17th, 2010 at 16:32 | #7

    A bit of a long article but worth the read.

    Freedom Loving Governments of the World: Beware of Jehovah’s Witnesses

    For almost four decades I have been one of Jehovah’s Witnesses (JW), the organization run by the Watchtower Society (Wt Soc). A lot of people have been trying to unravel the JW puzzle and have approached it from many different angles, angles which while valid, are, in my opinion, lacking. I have been unable to find an article that sufficiently describes the scope of the situation. This article is an attempt to do so and as a final objective, to properly classify this organization.
    First, though, here are some approaches that did not make me leave this group over the years.

    Media campaigns against the Wt Soc. Let’s assume the Wt Soc has no credibility. Most JWs will dismiss all media campaigns. The argument goes like this, “ How can a bad organization produce good fruits?” The Wt Soc has almost 7 million human shields – good people around a bad core. Hard to penetrate. True of many organizations.

    Challenging Wt Soc doctrine or policy. e.g. Disfellowshiping. This is dismissed because disfellowshiped JWs complaining about disfellowshiping come across as whiners. Even outsiders are unsympathetic, thinking the disfellowshiped person is better off kicked out. Other doctrinal and policy issues are dismissed as well, mainly because JWs feel their beliefs and policies are backed by the Bible.

    Attempting to explain to a JW member s/he is in a cult. This is like forcing a sleepwalking child to wake up. Better to gently guide the child back to bed and let him awaken on his own. Sooner or later all decent JWs will awaken, given the right guidance.

    Here are some things I had to address.

    Number 1.

    The Wt Soc claims JWs are of the highest moral character, that their faith is unbreakable. The supreme example offered is during WWII when JWs were in Nazi Germany concentration camps.
    A different picture emerges from the WT Soc’s own literature: the Nazis broke JWs and JWs became willing Nazi collaborators.

    According to Wt Soc literature,

    “Jehovah’s Witnesses were imprisoned because of their faith. Repeatedly they were promised release from the camps if they would only sign a declaration renouncing their beliefs. The SS did everything in their power to entice or force the Witnesses to sign such a declaration. Above all else, this was what they wanted.
    All but a few of the Witnesses proved unbreakable in their integrity. But they did more than suffer because of their loyalty to Jehovah and their devotion to the name of Christ. They did more than endure the inquisitional torture that was inflicted on them. They maintained strong ties of spiritual unity.” (Objects of Hatred by All the Nations, pg. 663)

    According to the 1974 Yearbook of Jehovah’s Witnesses,

    “A total of 2,000 brothers and sisters had been put into concentration camps, where they had spent 8,078 years and six months, an average of four years. A total of 635 had died in prison, 253 had been sentenced to death and 203 of these had actually been executed. What a record of integrity!”

    This is confirmed by the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum; between 2,000 and 2,500 German JWs were imprisoned and around half died, 250 by execution.
    http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10005394

    Here is where it gets weird. According to the Wt Soc 1974 Yearbook Part 3, pgs. 196-198,

    “…from a letter that Himmler wrote to his closest associates, the top SS leaders Pohl and Müller. This letter, stamped “Secret,” included the following passages:
    “Enclosed is a report about the ten Bible Students (Note: JWs) that are working on my doctor’s farm. I had an opportunity to study the matter of the Earnest Bible Students from all angles. Mrs. Kersten made a very good suggestion. She said that she had never had such good, willing, faithful and obedient personnel as these ten women. These people do much out of love and kindness. . . . One of the women once received 5.00 RM as a tip from a guest. She accepted the money since she did not want to cast aspersions upon the home, and gave it to Mrs. Kersten, since it was prohibited to have money in the camp. The women voluntarily did any work required of them. Evenings they knitted, Sundays they were kept busy in some other way. During the summer they did not let the opportunity pass to get up two hours earlier and gather baskets full of mushrooms, even though they were required to work ten, eleven and twelve hours a day. These facts complete my picture of the Bible Students. They are incredibly fanatical, willing people, ready to sacrifice. If we could put their fanaticism to work for Germany or instill such fanaticism into our people, then we would be stronger than we are today. Of course, since they reject the war, their teaching is so detrimental that we cannot permit it lest we do Germany the greatest damage. . . .
    “Nothing is accomplished by punishing them, since they only talk about it afterward with enthusiasm. . . . Each punishment serves as a merit for the other world. That is why every true Bible Student will let himself be executed without hesitation. . . . Every confinement in the dungeon, every pang of hunger, every period of freezing is a merit, every punishment, every blow is a merit with Jehovah.
    “Should problems develop in camp in the future involving the Bible Students, then I prohibit the camp commander from pronouncing any punishment. Such cases should be reported to me with a brief description of the circumstances. From now on I plan on doing the opposite and telling the respective individual: ‘You are forbidden to work. You are to be better fed than the others and you do not have to do anything.’
    “For according to the belief of these good-natured lunatics merit ceases then, yes, to the contrary, previous merits will be deducted by Jehovah.
    “Now my suggestion is that all of the Bible Students be put in work—for example, farm work, which has nothing to do with war and all its madness. One can leave them unguarded if properly assigned; they will not run away. They can be given uncontrolled jobs, they will prove to be the best administrators and workers.
    “Another use for them as suggested by Mrs. Kersten: We can employ the Bible Students in our ‘Lebensbornheime’ (homes erected to rear children fostered by SS men to produce a master race), not as nurses, but, rather, as cooks, housekeepers, or to do work in the laundry or similar jobs. In cases where we still have men serving as janitors we can use strong women Bible Students. I am convinced that, in most cases, we will have little difficulty with them.
    “I am also in agreement with suggestions that Bible Students be assigned to large families. Qualified Bible Students who have the necessary ability should be found and reported to me. I will then personally distribute them among large families. In such households they are not to wear prison garb, however, but civilian clothes and their stay should be arranged in a similar way to the free and interned Bible Students in Harzwalde.
    “In all these cases where prisoners are partially free and have been assigned to such work we want to avoid written records or signatures and make such agreements with just a handshake.
    “Please send your recommendations for initiating this action and a report on it.”
    So it was. Within a short time quite a few sisters were sent to work in SS households, truck gardens, estates and “Lebensbornheime.”
    There were other reasons, however, why the SS were willing to take Jehovah’s witnesses into their homes. The SS felt the secret hate that was growing among the populace. They realized they were not just being joked about privately. Many did not even trust their maids anymore and were afraid that they might poison their food or kill them in some other way. With time, top SS officials dared not go to just any barber, for fear he might cut their throats. Max Schröer and Paul Wauer were assigned to shave top SS officials regularly, since they knew that Jehovah’s witnesses would never take revenge and kill their human enemies.
    These brothers and sisters working outside the camps were even permitted visits from their relatives or could themselves visit their relatives at home. Some were given several weeks’ vacation for this purpose. This eventually meant that the brothers and sisters obtained more food, which resulted in rapid improvement of their health and reduced the number of deaths due to hunger and mistreatment.”

    Further, on page 198,
    “Another work crew composed of forty-two brothers, all good craftsmen, was taken to Lake Wolfgang in Austria to build a house for a top SS official. Although the work on the mountainside was not easy, the brothers otherwise had it much better. For example, Erich Frost, who belonged to this group, was given permission to have his accordion sent from home. After receiving it he and the other brothers were often permitted to go out onto the lake evenings, where he would play folk songs and concert pieces, which were enjoyed, not only by his brothers, but also by those living along the lake, including the SS, under whose supervision they were working.”

    Correct me if I am wrong. Suppose I was beaten and forced by gunmen to drive their getaway car during a bank robbery. When we all stood before the judge I would expect some leniency because of being beaten and forced. If it was discovered during the trial that I later willingly stayed in the car alone while all the gunmen robbed the bank, I am pretty sure the judge would nail me for being an accomplice.

    Maybe I am being harsh but as far as I can tell, JWs became willing Nazi collaborators.

    According to the Awake 2000, June 22, “The Manipulation of Information”, page 8,

    “In the mind of the misinformed and possibly fearful public, Jehovah’s Witnesses were either a suicidal cult or Nazi collaborators!”

    That JWs were Nazi collaborators is not ‘in the mind of the misinformed and fearful public’ but rather on the pages of the Wt Soc’s own literature!

    Summary: Early in WWII the Germans loved Hitler and then later wanted to slit his throat.
    Early in WWII the Witnesses hated Hitler and then later were licking his boots.
    Unbreakable faith does not include willingly building chalets, playing the accordion and singing ‘Kumbaya’ for the SS up by the lake. JWs have no ‘higher moral character’ and hold no moral high ground.

    Number 2

    JW testimony of German concentration camps during WWII conflicts with the current Holocaust view, so much so, they should be kicked out of every Holocaust Museum.

    According to the Watchtower 1968, Jan. 1, page 16, para. 32,

    “On October 7, 1934, having been previously summoned, I visited Dr. Wilhelm Frick, at that time Minister of the Interior of the Reich and Prussia, in his home office of the Reich, located in Berlin, 6 am Köenigsplatz, since I was a plenipotentiary of General Ludendorff. I was to accept communications, contents of which were an attempt to persuade General Ludendorff to discontinuance of his objection to the Nazi regime. During my discussion with Dr. Frick, Hitler suddenly appeared and began taking part in the conversation. When our discussion obligatorily dealt with the action against the International Bible Students Association [Jehovah’s witnesses] in Germany up until now, Dr. Frick showed Hitler a number of telegrams protesting against the Third Reich’s persecution of the Bible Students, saying: ‘If the Bible Students do not immediately get in line we will act against them using the strongest means.’ After which Hitler jumped to his feet and with clenched fists hysterically screamed: ‘This brood will be exterminated in Germany!’ Four years after this discussion I was able, by my own observations, to convince myself, during my seven years in protective custody in the hell of the Nazi’s concentration-camps at Sachsenhausen, Flossenburg and Mauthausen—I was in prison until released by the Allies—that Hitler’s outburst of anger was not just an idle threat. No other group of prisoners of the named concentration-camps was exposed to the sadism of the SS-soldiery in such a fashion as the Bible Students were. It was a sadism marked by an unending chain of physical and mental tortures, the likes of which no language in the world can express.—Quoted from sworn statement made by Karl R. A. Wittig, November 13, 1947.”

    According to the WT 1975, June 15, Insight on the News,

    “By contrast, thousands of European Jews can testify that one religious group in Germany underwent persecution equal to that heaped upon the Jews: Jehovah’s witnesses. Hundreds of these died in concentration camps. They suffered because of insisting on holding to and practicing true Christianity rather than worship of the State.”

    This type of rhetoric is all through the WT Soc literature.

    And according to the Watchtower 1981 June 15, Faith is Practical, page 6,

    “Horrible as the Nazi camps were, hundreds of thousands of men and women there were trying to live. They were struggling day after day to keep alive despite the sickness, beatings, exhaustion and random killings. They tried to eat, keep warm and avoid disease. They had to work, sleep and deal with those around them.
    Thus, despite their horror—or perhaps because of it—the Nazi concentration camps are a place for us to look for evidence as to the real practicality of faith. Though we personally may never face life in such camps, we can benefit from lessons involving them.”
    And according to the 1996 Yearbook of JWs, Hungary, pgs. 92 -93,
    “In the spring of 1944, when many Jews were transported from the internment camp at Nagykanizsa to camps in Germany, there were two of Jehovah’s Witnesses among them, Éva Bász and Olga Slézinger, Jews by birth, 20 and 45 years of age respectively.

    Later they were brought to the concentration camp in Bergen-Belsen. It was about this time that a typhus epidemic broke out in the camp. Sister Slézinger became so sick that she was removed from the camp along with many others and was never seen again.”

    And according to the 1974 Yearbook,

    “But Himmler continued to follow his Führer’s commands and sent the following telegram to the commanders of Dachau and Flossenbürg: “Surrendering is out of the question. The camp is to be evacuated immediately. No prisoner is to fall into enemy hands alive. (Signed Heinrich Himmler)” Similar instructions were sent to the other camps.
    This was the last devilish plan once again endangering the lives of God’s faithful servants held in the camps. But they were not overly worried. They rested their confidence in Jehovah, regardless of what the immediate outcome might be to them personally.
    The SS officers who had the duty of liquidating the prisoners were faced with an unsolvable task. Brother Walter Hamann, who had been assigned to work in the SS canteen, overheard an interesting conversation among SS officers. He relates: “The officers spoke of gassing the prisoners, but the facilities were much too small, neither did they have enough gas. Then I overheard a telephone conversation about an oil shipment for the furnaces; but this could not be delivered. Mention was then made of blowing up the camps and their inmates. Boxes of dynamite had already been placed in the various barracks, especially in the hospital ward. But this plan was abandoned too. Finally, it was decided to evacuate the 30,000 prisoners; they were told that they would be sent to a larger camp—which did not exist—but in reality they were intending to provide us with a mass grave in Lübecker Bay. No gas, oil or dynamite would be needed for this.”

    JWs must be the most ego-centric and worst witnesses in the world, not one mention by the JWs in the camps of anything approaching The Holocaust.

    ‘No other group of prisoners’ suffered as bad as the JWs? I thought the Jews did!
    ‘Equal to that heaped upon the Jews’, with hundreds killed? I thought there were 6 million killed!
    ‘Random killings’? I thought systematic killings were needed to kill 6 million!
    ‘She was removed from the camp’? This is the only account by a JW eyewitness of ‘harm’ coming to a Jew and she was sick and for all we know was removed to receive medical treatment or quarantined!
    ‘An unsolvable task’ to kill a mere 30,000? Hardly the description of a cold, efficient Nazi killing machine capable of killing 6 million.

    The only thing JW eyewitness testimony describes during WWII in the camps are labour and prison camps,
    not death camps, certainly no mass killing of Jews or anyone else.

    From 1975 and on, the Wt Soc suddenly become Holocaust believers. According to the Wt 1975, June 15, Insight on the News, Legacy of the Holocaust,

    “Each year a conference of Christians and Jews meets to discuss what is called the “Holocaust”—the mass destruction of Jews during the Nazi regime in Europe. In the last session, held this past March, Dr. Franklin H. Littell, professor of religion at Temple University, stated that “the murder of approximately 6 million Jews by baptized Christians in the heart of [Christendom] called into question the Christian faith as has not been done in nineteen hundred and some odd years.” He said the question produced a severe “spiritual wrestling” by the churches and added, “I’m not sure Christianity will survive.”

    Summary: Before 1975, the word ‘holocaust’ was used in Wt Soc literature to simply describe the horrors of WWII felt by both sides of the war and by all peoples. Before 1975 the Holocaust, as suffered exclusively by Jews, is essentially denied by the WT Soc and JW testimony from inside the camps. According to the Wt Soc, the Holocaust was suffered almost exclusively by JWs. From 1975 on, the Wt Soc ignores the testimony from JWs who lived in the camps during WWII and begins teaching the current Holocaust doctrine.

    If the Holocaust did happen, why are JWs in any Holocaust Museum, since it is evident they became willing Nazi collaborators?
    According to Wt Soc literature (before 1975) and JW testimony from WWII, the Holocaust did not happen, so why are JWs in any Holocaust Museum?

    The Wt Soc and JWs are not friends of any good Jews who died during WWII .

    Number 3

    The Wt Soc’s recent name change to ‘Christain Congregation of Jehovah’s Witnesses’

    According to the Awake 1970, May 22, Who Is a Jew?, page 28,

    “So it can be confidently stated that the real Jews, within the meaning of the Christian Greek Scriptures, are those who both praise Jehovah God (Note:This is their supreme creator god) and who receive praise from him. Such praisers are also witnesses to his name and kingdom.”

    The Wt Soc literature is filled with statements like this.

    By the Wt Soc’s own definition, then, the JWs are a sister-faith to the Talmudic Jews, Freemasons, and Mormons, all of whom praise the Divine Name. I’ll speculate here and guess that the JWs are even a sister-faith to the Hindu-faith whose supreme creator god is Shiva. Remove the second syllable from JE HO VAH, say what is left ten times, JE VAH, say SHI VA ten times and notice the similarity. This could be a coincidence but it could explain why the Wt Soc never specifically call for the destruction of the Talmudic Jews, Freemasons, Mormons and Hindus. Instead they direct all their wrath against Christian faiths specifically naming the Roman Catholic, Protestant and Orthodox faiths. Also, almost none of their proselytizing or literature is directed to converting the Talmudic Jews, Freemasons, Mormons and Hindus since they apparently are already ’saved’. The exception are articles apologizing to Jews for Christian ‘persecution’ over the centuries. All references to the Talmud and Rabbis are positive, for example, ‘use the Talmud to back up the Bible’, ‘eminent scholars’ and so on.

    Summary: JWs cannot claim to be Christian while claiming to be Jewish. JWs are not friends of Christians. The ‘loving Kingdom message’ they preach is their moral ‘justification’ for their hoped for, coming destruction of everything Christian.

    JWs are against Jews and Christians while claiming to be both. The WT Soc seems to have an identity crisis. On whose side are they?

    Number 4

    The Wt Soc’s true view of the United Nations reveals heavy involvement in politics rather than ‘political neutrality’ as they claim.

    All through the Wt Soc literature JWs are taught the UN is evil. Therefore, the people backing the UN should be evil. Not so.

    In 1970, the first mention of Rockefeller, one of the foremost backers of the UN, is made in the Wt Soc literature. Thereafter, the Wt Soc becomes the champion of anything to do with Rockefeller and their interests, such as, for example, the WHO, an agency of the UN.

    According to the 2008 Awake, May 8, Is Philanthropy the Answer, page 20,

    “The dawn of the 20th century saw an earlier so-called golden age of philanthropy. Such financial titans as Andrew Carnegie and John D. Rockefeller, Sr., decided to use their fortunes to help the needy. These benefactors saw that traditional charities, while feeding starving men or nursing sick children, did not address underlying causes. Sensing the need for a more strategic approach to giving, they created institutes and foundations that would foster social change and fund research aimed at eliminating problems at their roots. Since those early years, literally tens of thousands of such organizations have been established worldwide, well over 50 of them with assets exceeding one billion dollars.
    There is no denying the good that has been accomplished as a result.”

    ‘Social change’ to a New World Order? Is that the ‘good that has been accomplished’?

    I wonder who the philanthropist is who heavily finances, if not outright owns the WT Soc and JWs?

    Here is how it will be spun in the near future to JWs by the WT Soc.
    The UN will be equated with Cyrus the Great who defeated the Babylonians and freed God’s people. Although Cyrus the Great wasn’t a worshiper of God, he was used by God to accomplish His purpose. Similarly, Rockefeller/UN are not worshipers of God but He will use them to destroy Babylon the Great (primarily, anything Christian) and thus set God’s people (JWs) free.

    If Rockefeller manages that stunt the JWs will lick his boots out of sheer ecstasy as it would be a JW dream to see every Christian church burn.

    Summary: The Wt Soc, while on the surface appears to be against the UN, actually openly champions the Rockefellers and UN agencies. The WT Soc and JWs are not ‘politically neutral’.

    Number 5

    The Romans 13:1 Switch reveals the Wt Soc’s pro-Rockefeller position

    From 1929 to 1961 JWs were taught that the ‘higher powers’ or ’superior authorities’ of Romans 13:1 were Jehovah God, Jesus Christ and the 144,000 (localized, of course, around the WT Soc). Therefore, during that period every government on earth was invalid and not to be obeyed. (They still managed to get down for Hitler though). JWs were known for clogging Canadian and US jails and courts at that time, pressing for rights and freedoms to worship and preach. Eventually Canada tabled the Canadian Bill of Rights for which JWs take credit, on account of the ’stand’ they took.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Bill_of_Rights

    In 1961, the WT Soc released its own complete translation as a single volume, the New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures, based on Westcott and Hort’s work. According to Proclaimers, Chapter 10, Growing in Accurate Knowledge of the Truth, page 147,

    “Years later, a careful reanalysis of the scripture was made, along with its context and its meaning in the light of all the rest of the Bible. As a result, in 1962 it was acknowledged that “the superior authorities” are the secular rulers, but with the help of the New World Translation, the principle of relative subjection was clearly discerned.”

    From then on, all the governments of the world are somehow under Satan’s control but ordained by God and now JWs must obey them. (Note to JWs: currently in the US and Canada all laws are obeyed by JWs and therefore Satan at this moment is in complete compliance with God. Why are you then campaigning for the destruction of these governments and their citizens?)

    Here is what happened.

    -the Rockefeller agenda is to destroy US sovereignty and bring it further under his control.
    -JWs used as ‘cat’s paw’ after WWII to push for ‘freedom’ in evil (Rom.13:1) US and Canada, resulting in…
    -the Canadian Bill of Rights(1960) which paved the way for…
    -the Constitution of Canada resulting in Canadian sovereignty, which allowed…
    -Freetrade between the US and Canada resulting in…
    -loss of sovereignty for both countries and further dominance by Rockefeller paving the way for…
    -total UN domination of the US with the future goal of destruction of all things Christian and allowing for…
    -the New World Order (Note. The Wt Soc has a New World bible for a New World Society for a future New World).

    Summary: Once the Canadian Bill of Rights(1960) was in place, the WT Soc then fully introduced their new translation(1961) and changed the understanding of Romans 13:1 (1962) to make JWs comply with ’superior authorities’ in the US and Canada who were now under, or soon going to be under, Rockefeller control. JWs were one of the tools used by Rockefeller to advance his agenda. The Canadian Bill of Rights was the key. If JWs were willing to bend their knee to Hitler at the time they believed Rom. 13:1 meant Hitler was Satanic and after he beat and killed some of them, imagine how fast JWs now will bend their knee to Rockefeller since they believe he is ordained by God (Rom. 13:1) and after he fulfills their greatest desire, the destruction of all Christianity. JWs will become whatever Rockefeller needs to accomplish his purpose provided he crafts the laws to be ‘in compliance’ with God’s laws. The WT Soc is supposedly politically neutral. It is not. It powerfully shapes state policy for the advantage of its master.

    Number 6

    Abstaining from Blood is used as moral high ground by JWs. JWs do not abstain from blood any longer as a result of following the Rockefeller agenda.

    According to Watchtower, 2004, June 15, pg 30,

    “The Bible directs Christians to ‘abstain from things sacrificed to idols and from blood and from fornication.’ (Acts 15:29) Beyond that, when it comes to fractions of any of the primary components, each Christian, after careful and prayerful meditation, must conscientiously decide for himself.”

    JWs can take blood fractions in good conscience which is like ordering someone to abstain from coca leaves but if the coca leaves are refined into cocaine, then it is okay to use the cocaine.

    Why are JWs allowed to take blood in this form?

    The WT Soc advances the Rockefeller agenda. The WT Soc teaches that God will wipe out the wicked which also happens to be most of the world’s population.

    There is an interesting experience by a JW missionary which best describes the mindset of most JWs. According to the Yearbook 1975, page 205,

    “Just the appearance of a foreigner or a well-dressed stranger is the signal for the narrow street to fill up with unwashed, unkempt children of all ages. They literally pour out of the homes, leaving no doubt in one’s mind that overpopulation is the No. 1 problem in this part of the world. Shouting and hustling one another, they follow the publisher from house to house, often barging into the homes in the wake of the publisher, oblivious to any remonstrance. The older ones quickly grasp the identity of the newcomer and soon the whole street hears that they can buy a magazine for twenty-five paisas or that the stranger is making Christians. This often results in closed doors, but anyway the publisher by this time decides he must try another street where he will be able to hear himself speak.”

    (Note to JWs. I’m sure that is how Jesus felt when he was swarmed by children. –Matthew 19:13,14)

    Bill Gates said recently at a recent TED conference that new vaccines, health care (chemo and other forms of euthanasia) and reproductive health services (abortions) will be used to try to reduce the world’s population by 10-15% in the next few years.
    http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/eng/bill_gates.html

    Remember how Rockefellers “fund research aimed at eliminating problems at their roots?” Their research includes genetic, ‘medical’ and vaccine research. The Wt Soc champions the vaccine agenda all through their literature. (Before the 1950’s, the Wt Soc was almost violently opposed to vaccinations. That is why the Wt Soc did a name change from The Golden Age to Awake magazine; to distance itself from radically altered teachings and why Wt Soc literature only goes back to 1950 on disk, to prevent serious research. Thank God for the Internet (Daniel 12:4). The Wt Soc has also banned private study groups among its JWs members and condemns what it deems disruptive technology like the Internet and lately the iPad). Blood fractions happen to be in some, many, or most vaccines and since vaccines are ‘good’, blood fractions need the official blessing as well from the Wt Soc as well.

    According to Awake 2010, June, Protecting Your Family From the Flu, pages 27 and 28,

    “Recognizing the need to be prepared, many governments have action plans already in place.”

    As the H1N1 pandemic showed, these ‘action plans’ primarily consisted of vaccinating the populations. JWs convince everyone to ‘obey the superior authorities’ and to follow the laws requiring vaccination, especially mandatory vaccination!

    Summary: Most JWs take blood through vaccinations and other medical treatment. They can claim no moral high ground in this matter anymore. The Wt Soc campaigns strongly and openly for the Rockfeller depopulation agenda and the Rockefeller/NWO vaccination agenda even though JWs are told to keep their medical preferences to themselves.

    Final Conclusion: The Wt Soc and JWs should be reclassified by every government. They are not a religion or even a cult and should not be recognized at that level. Trying to discredit the Wt Soc using Scriptural arguments only strengthens their position. The Wt Soc is a psychological manipulation/warfare branch of the Rockefellers. Its shear size and the fact that it may once have been a religion have made its detection difficult.

    Its objectives are primarily twofold. One is the subversion of every sovereign state through propaganda cleverly disguised by Bible rhetoric and also through aggressive legal schemes. JWs are used, unknowingly to each member, as necessary. The second objective is to condition JWs to be the ‘ideal people’ of a future, ‘post -Armageddon’ slave class to be used by the Rockefellers and their buddies. Total, unquestioning compliance is the overriding mandate now imposed on JWs by the Wt Soc. The Wt Soc has a hatred of freedom as embodied by the Canadian Bill of Rights and the Constitution of Canada.

    The Wt Soc currently enjoys tax exemption as a religious organization. This tax exempt status, in light of the last two paragraphs, should be revoked by every freedom loving state and if possible efforts made to reclaim back-taxes. I do not think tax payers would appreciate their government, in effect, funding the Wt Soc to have a hand in destroying the sovereignty of their own country.

    If you want to know, more or less, what Rockefeller is thinking , read the Wt Soc literature. One of the Wt Soc’s favorite scriptures is Zechariah 8:23, “This is what Jehovah of armies has said, ‘It will be in those days that ten men out of all the languages of the nations (JWs) will take hold, yes, they will actually take hold of the skirt of a man who is a Jew (supposed to be Jesus), saying: “We will go with YOU people, for we have heard [that] God is with YOU people.”

    It appears the ’skirt of a man’ the JWs have been fooled into taking hold of is Rockefeller’s.
    To all JWs: have fun licking his boots. I’ll do what Max Schröer and Paul Wauer, the JW/Nazi barbers, should have done, when the time comes.

    A few personal notes and observations

    I am sure ones will try to tear this article apart by citing errors or inconsistencies on my part. I welcome corrections. If any wish to discredit this article, please be honest and genuine and address the major issues.
    I intend this article to be a starting point for any further research and for ones who want to be aware of this branch of the New World Order.

    As far as my bias is concerned I am not a disaffected JW with ‘an ax to grind’. I am currently in good standing in my congregation although if and when I am discovered I am sure to be disfellowshiped as an apostate, even though I have only cited Wt Soc material. I still have family in “The Truth” and I will attend until they are ready to leave and to monitor the situation until I leave. Hopefully, if this article is successful, I will be ‘forced’ to leave. I have no connections to nor can I recommend any religious organization at this time. I just want to be around decent people no matter their race or religion.

    For serious research of Wt Soc literature I would recommend the latest edition of the Watchtower Library on Disk. The Wt Soc issues an updated one yearly. It has a search feature which allows you to skip all the tedious stuff and trust me, there is a lot of it. The Wt Soc literature is written at either a Grade 4 (or less) level or in such a nebulous, speculative way that getting the true meaning is difficult. Someone owes me for the stuff I had to wade through to write this article!

    I ask good JWs to follow your conscience and do the right thing even if it costs you. If you have been a JW for any length of time you already know hardship and I am sure you are up to the challenge. Everything is easy after being a JW!

    I ask others to consider that many JWs are barely educated, financially poor and have totally cut off any non-JW friends and family. This puts them in a extremely vulnerable position. They have an ‘Orwellian Double-Think’ way of viewing outsiders. “Respond, Mr Worldly Person, to our warm, loving Kingdom message, or die at Armageddon!” This guarantees their isolation, so do not expect them to hug you if you try to awaken them before they are ready. What did Himmler call the JWs? Oh yeah, ‘good-natured lunatics’.

    On top of the confused mental state, many JWs are treated very badly in their own congregations by sociopathic ‘elders’ and prominent ones who get a psychic thrill from emotionally torturing and dominating selected ‘brothers’ or ’sisters’. The victim is forced to absolutely comply with Star Chamber judicial proceedings where they must testify about themselves concerning charges made by one or more anonymous congregation members. If there is even the slightest chance that any details of the proceedings could cast the organization in a bad light, the victim will be forced to remain silent or they will be the one punished with disfellowshiping and the loss of what few family and friends they have. There is much pain in this organization. On the upside, many good JWs are being driven out of this organization.

    Press the Wt Soc hard and from every angle. Extend your sympathy as best you can to any decent JW.
    Offer what support they need to leave and to stay out.

  8. Jones
    May 27th, 2010 at 12:25 | #8

    Thank you for clearing that carrot comment up as I would have not understood the meaning. Would have responded sooner but my computer has been in the hospital.@Markus

  9. Markus
    May 5th, 2010 at 07:40 | #9

    @Jones

    To give someone carrots is a saying we used to use in the old days when I used to play baseball. It meant to give them a hiding, or beat them in such a way that they cannot wait for the end of the game.
    I am well, I hope you guys will be able to sort out that bad oil spill.
    I watched it on the news.

    Cheers,
    Markus

  10. Shania
    May 2nd, 2010 at 09:58 | #10

    @Neesie
    Neesie,

    I think you need to give “The World” one more try. It is not worth it to continue on in the JW cult. It is truly a waste of one’s time. Look up cultwatch – it explains what a cult is. You can see how the JW’s fit the description of a cult. God loves you unlike what the JW’s try to tell you. It seems that you are never good enough and are always trying to win favor with God with works such as going door to door and giving talks at the meetings. There is someone out there that will love you just as you are, just as God loves you as you are, but not in the JW cult.

  11. otto marconi
    May 1st, 2010 at 23:19 | #11

    @Jones Hi Jones, how are you?
    I agree with your post.
    This oil rig disaster is a nightmare.
    It will be a nightmare for all sensible people.
    But jehovordures, as we all know, will be happier than a drunkard hanging onto a lampost throwing up blasphemous trolls out of their droolish swine snouts.
    they will see in this yet another proof of the fulfilling of revelation 11:18, which among the other ridiculous crap says:”and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth”.
    I remember by heart cos i’ve long since used that page of the holy book inspired by the Holy Fart as toilet paper.
    this is the result of the so-called “revealed truths”:
    turning the worst monsters of the universe (those with the inborn loathsome jehovordure gene) into cosmic abomination.
    Cheers and glory to the Filthful and Disgraceful Slavebugger which 24/7/365 bang their slaves to stone age.
    ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah aha aaaahhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!

  12. Jones
    May 1st, 2010 at 08:45 | #12

    Hello Markus,
    No I did not give them carrots. I spoke freely and frankly with the parents and if the people show up again we will all be prepared to do a little teaching of our own. Do hope all is well with you. We are looking to have lots and lots of crude oil covering all our sugar white beaches in the coming days and weeks. No telling just how many jobs will go because the visitors can’t swim or fish or do all the fun stuff that people do on vacation. @Markus

  13. Markus
    April 28th, 2010 at 08:12 | #13

    @Jones
    Hey Jones, I hope you gave them carrots.
    Cheers,
    Markus

  14. otto marconi
    April 23rd, 2010 at 03:19 | #14

    @Amelopena Dear amelopena, only shitholes like you and your shithole family and shithole dna can post shit like you do. stick your filthy shitfilled head up deep into your cockroach parents and siblings.

  15. Jones
    April 17th, 2010 at 20:23 | #16

    Well these people have reached a new low. Today I witnessed a couple across the street with an 11 year old girl, home alone waiting for family to return. They made no attempt to excuse themselves until a responsible adult was there. No matter the religion, no one has the right to try indoctrinate a child without a parent being available. They won’t do it again.

  16. otto marconi
    March 27th, 2010 at 03:49 | #17

    @Sallyspencer Dear Sally, I really hope you trust the Towers of All Terrors completely. Please, put everything in their hands and you will see that je-SHIT-hovah the greatest faecal cylinder in the universe will help everyone involved according to their deeds and misdeeds. After which, when justice is done just flush your turd god je-SHIT-hovah down the toilet and you together with it.
    Cheers

  17. Sallyspencer
    March 26th, 2010 at 00:41 | #18

    I recently gained custody of my son from his JW mother. The Judges public order describes behaivour from his mother and describes 3 way sex with a live in couple. The mother walking around nude in the presence of 3 boys 9-15 years old. Sleeping nude with her 15 year old son, bathing and showering with her 9 and 15 year old sons. Stepping into the shower with the 14 year old son of the live in family.
    Picture 3 candidates from America’s Biggest Looser in the first week having a 3 some.

    We live in the shadow of the disappearance of Jacyee Dugard 17 years ago and the recent discovery of Philip Garrido. Does anyone realize that his accomplice wife met him when she witnessing at the prison. Read about his story. http://www.kcra.com/news/20591281/detail.html

    I am concerned the local congregations are fearful of exposing their members to htis member.

    We considered providing the local elders a copy of the judges findings which spells detail of her conduct, but fear for reprisal and the congregation “protecting” themselves.
    Should I send this document to the Watchtower Society directly to take action?
    If I send it to the W&BTS, will they insure the local congregation takes action?
    Who should I send it to insure they take action?

    I feel the local congregation should know about the conduct of this baptized publisher. In light of the recent cover ups, I fear that after providing this damaging information to the Elders it wold “disappear with no action taken”.
    Would you recommend I share this information directly with the WT&BT Society?
    Should I set up my own web page and post the information? Blog?

    Publish my own blog and put this public record out there for all to see?
    You suggestions are appreciated.

  18. otto marconi
    March 10th, 2010 at 16:32 | #19

    @Neesie Dear neesieeresy, how jehovordure you are!
    I really wish the scum who are jehovordures to remain such and the scum not yet jehovordure to become such so to get buggered to stone age by the monster child rapist terrorist of the Filthful and Disgraceful Slavebugger.
    I really wish my language attracted such scum and more of it into the clutches of the Towers of All Terrors and their worthless cockroach existence crushed to shameful degradation.
    You neesie are a shit a total shit, ya got all wrong about me, your cheap “psychologizing” speaks volumes about your low-class education.
    You guys are monsters killers who have a homicidal hatred against yourself and humaninty in general, otherwise ya would not belong to planetary carnage advoccate cults, ya mass murderer and child rapist black water sludge.
    shame on you murderer, masochist, sadist, paedophile cheat and fraud.

  19. Neesie
    March 10th, 2010 at 14:17 | #20

    @otto marconi

    You must be quite troubled. Your horrible way of describing people and use of profanity and derogatory language speaks volumes about your character. It goes far deeper than your hatred for JW’s. Either you lived a very rough life or you’re taking frustrations you are having in your life out on the most meekest of all people. You sound like a young person with no manners and a twisted mentality…or you need medication (if you’re not on any already). Actually you sound Bipolar. I mean….you sound like the type of person people have had the misfortune of encountering. The ones that leave a suicide note and go on a killing spree. I’ll pray that Jehovah sees your heart for what it truly is and for who you truly are. Also, the more you belittle Jehovah’s people the more others will want to know why you hate them…which in turn wants them to do more research…which prompts those ones to ask questions…and if they are honest hearted ones, a witness will occur. So….THANKS OTTO!!!

  20. otto marconi
    March 9th, 2010 at 23:35 | #21

    Dear Neesie jehovordure, how jehovordure at heart you are!
    of course ya wanna get but to Mr Butt Plug Joe Hover.
    you too are undoubtedly a scum, a child rapist, a planetary carnage advovate, a mass muderer, a terrorist, a shit-devourer, a fraud, a cheat a worthless, dumbfuck creep, a turd who creeps and crawls its way in the midst of a civil society but which longs to return to the Towers of All Terrors enclosure, led by the Filthful and Disgraceful Slavebugger.
    Please get back to such organization ya deformed monster, shithole, wallong cockroach.
    you a a piece of shit unable and unfit to find a cute decent girl among himans and ya wanne pray within the deformed shiteating cockroach shithole pit.

  21. Neesie
    March 9th, 2010 at 19:42 | #22

    Ok…this may sound so weird. But I’m currently disfellowshipped, was raised in the truth…but didn’t quite make the truth my own. I wanted to get married but found no potential mate within the organization…so I went out and hooked up with a non-jw….and that was a disaster. So now, I’m trying to gain favor with Jehovah and become reinstated. Are there any disfellowshipped JW’s out there (preferably cute and single…lol) who are on this tough journey to return back to Jehovah? I need a bit of encouragement. :-(

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