WELL THE BIBLE DOES CONDEM BLOOD TRANSFUSIONS

to mark

the other comment is directed to f.hall not to you.

start small. contact your nearest kingdom hall to find out what time the sunday meeting is held. if you have a bible take it with you.

JW’s use the New World Translation of the holy scriptures which is based on the Wescott and Hort text of the greek scriptures and reliable manuscripts of hebrew and aramaic. before this translation came out in the 1950’s the King James authorised version of 1611.

the public talk is just that : a talk for the public and for JW’s. take a notepad and pencil to write down notations, scriptures , comments and reasonings that you can take home with you and read back. you will be warmly welcomed. you may even meet someone you know; a neighbour or a workmate. if you stay to end of the two sessions you can ask all the questions you like, alternately if you go at the end of the public talk just talk to the guy in the entrance hall, he’ll make sure you get all the necessary info you need.

remember: start small. prove it to yourself. think about it. you may be pleasantly surprised to have found the true religion depite what others say.

thou hast been deceived so sayeth the apostate.

yeah right! what went first? the meetings? or the ministry? was it prayer or study? or was it that something was said that you did not like? did an expectation not get fulfilled when you wanted it to? or that God does not need an org on the earth?

there: a choice for you. Pride and a lack of humility fit most of the above. you have to blame someone as long as it is not yourself. then you can sleep easy and wait for armageddon and hope you are on the right side.

as Jesus himself said; he has a faithful steward and that not all professing christians will be saved but the one doing the will of his Father would.

as Micah also says in the time of the end you will tell clearly who serves God against those who haven’t come to know him.

Do you know what really happens?

They are consulting their lawyers to know haw many changes they can do, (because they know they are wrong with blood) so they won´t have to pay all the demands against them that can be like strong rain over the wts.

They adore their money more than JW life

Dear Poster,

I can tell by your post that you are much too young to know what you are talking about. (And I truly mean no disrespect!!)

I still have my bound volumes from many years back. And precious one, you are so very wrong. They have not only asserted that they were “prophets,” they BRAGGED about it!!

Do you know that approximately four thousand Jehovah’s Witnesses leave the oganziation every single year? True, many may have died, and many may have been disfellowshipped for gross wrong doing, but it is still a sad fact that many are “put out” because they discovered the truth about “the truth.” And many are actually “in hiding,” because if they are not TECHICALLY disfellowshipped, they can still see their children and their parents.

In 1920, Rutherford published his book, “Millions Now Living Will Never Die!” and almost all JWs at that time believed it! Armageddon was supposed to come by 1925 (the third or fourth Watchtower “Armageddon Date”) and many JWs sold their homes and businesses and took to the streets, preaching the immiment “end of the world,” and selling Rutherford’s books. (That’s why they were called “Colporteurs,” because “colporteur” is a “peddler of religious books.”)

And while the JW Pioneers, of that time, were living in JW camps, in virtual squalor, Rutherford was spending time at the mansion, “Beth Serim,” built with dollars earned from these Pioneers…and this is with “Depression Era” dollars, too!! And Rutherford vacationed in Europe while unemployed, and hungry Americans, were standing in soup lines.

I remember the organization from as far back as 1960. I was at the convention that preached that Armageddon would most assuredly come in 1975, and was witness to the rush to purchase the book that had just been released, “proving” this newest “Amageddon Prophecy” to be true. There was a full five page chronological chart in the first chapter of the book to show that FOR SURE the brothers had it right THIS TIME!!

The book was called, “Life Everlasting In Freedom Of The Sons Of God.”

Stop and think. Why does the Watchtower hate people like me, so much!! Why do they rail against us, calling us “wicked apostates,” and “evil slaves,” and saying that we are “dogs that have returned to their vomit,” that we have “turned our backs on Jehovah,” and are now, “serving Satan”?? Why are they so strongly against JWs goning on the internet, looking for information on the Watchtower’s history?? What are they so afraid of??

Jesus said in John 14:6 that HE IS THE TRUTH. The Watchtower Organization would have you believe that THEY are “the truth”; even referring to themselves as “the truth.”

Jesus said that HE IS THE WAY. The Watchtower would have you believe that that is a lie…that the only WAY one can hope to know “truth,” or to be “right with Jehovah,” is to go THROUGH THEM!!

Jesus said that HE IS THE LIFE. It is a travesty, to me, that JWs are so thoroughly indoctrinated by the Watchtower to believe that the only way they can hope to attain life is THROUGH THE WATCHTOWER ORGANIZATION, and this is just not the truth.

Think about it. If joining an organization was essential to gaining everlasting life, why didn’t Jesus ever mention it?

When Jehovah God first told man that he could eat animal flesh, He commanded that the blood be spilled out upon the ground. This was out of respect to Jehovah, the “giver of life.”

Blood was to be seen as “sacred,” because “the life is in the blood.” And so blood came to be respected by God fearing people, because it represented the life…and the life belongs to God.

In those days of early Christianity, there was a quabble between Gentile Christians and Jewish Christians. The Jews, always a strict adherent to God’s law on blood, were horrifyed to see that their fellow Christian brothers ate blood.

The “elders” of the day met to discuss the matter. Since all “Law” had been “nailed to the cross” with Jesus…ending the “curse of the law” for all man…Christians were no longer bound by the “law on blood.” However, to “keep the peace,” and to not “stumble” these newly converted Jews, the “elders” decided that, for the time being, at least, it was best to “keep abstaining from blood.”

The Jehovah’s Witnesses content that this “law on blood” still stands. And thousands of JWs have faithfully died for it. However, the JWs have obviously not thought the “blood issue” through.

First, the “blood law” is null and void. Our only “laws,” as Christians, is to “love God with all that we are, and to love one another as Christ loved us,” and that “on this the whole law stands.” So even if the Watchtower Society…the Governing Body, or the Faithful Slave…still firmly believes in the validity of this law for todays Christians, they still do not have the moral right to ENFORCE CONFORMITY on their members to this belief.

Second, one must understand WHY blood was sacred. It is because THE LIFE IS IN THE BLOOD, therefore, it is not the blood, per se, that is sacred, but the LIFE that it REPRESENTS!

It is the LIFE that is precious!!

The Watchtower (who once told JWs that childhood vaccinations were “evil”) has made the BLOOD MORE IMPORTANT THAT THE LIFE IT REPRESENTS!!

In the days of the early Christians, blood was being used as FOOD. Food is digested as such; just the same as if one ate liver for dinner, the liver is taken into the body as FOOD, and not to serve that body for the function the liver was created to perform.

Today, a blood transfusion is blood going into a body that needs the blood to perform the function it was created to perform…just as a heart or kidney transplant (which the Watchtower also long banned as “against God’s law”)

It is not “disrepecting life” to have a blood transfusion, but shows a terrible disrespect to life when a parent allows their child to bleed to death when it was not necessary.

Lana,

First off, let me share with you that I don’t have a dog in this fight. I’m not a JW but I have gotten a pretty good education from your published books and magazines. You can enlighten me with your take on what I am having difficulty understanding.

History points out that many of your faith were encouraged to sell their homes in anticipation of the end. They were encouraged to refrain from any higher education as they would have no need for it. Now how could a religion see this happening within their ranks and not put a stop to it if they were not believing that these things would come to pass? Silence may be golden in some cases, but this was an overt act of cruelty from my viewpoint. The leadership by their silence, allowed this to happen.

YOU CANNOT DESCRIBE A COLOR TO SOMEONE WHO HAS NEVER SEEN LIGHT

I have learned, sometimes painfully so, that you can’t open a person’s eyes when they have them tightly shut. By this I simply mean that it is easier to teach someone the truth when they are hungry for knowledge. That’s why the Bible at 1Corinthians: 2:14-16 says: “But a physical man does not receive the things of the spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; and he cannot get to know [them], because they are examined spiritually. However, the spiritual man examines indeed all things, but he himself is not examined by any man. For ‘who has come to know the mind of Jehovah, that he may instruct him?’” Whether it’s the blood issue or the beliefs of Jehovah’s Witnesses, there are people who simply have no interest in makings changes in their lives. They are content with their lot in life and simply want to be left to pursue the passions of their heart. For those of us who are children of the light and whose hope is the vindication of Jehovah’s name and his universal sovereignty remember the admonition of our King at Matthew 7:6.

The governing body has no relevance to the lives of Jehovah’s Witnesses as each Witness reads and studies the Bible. So there is nothing to be deceived about as the bible is clear about the kingdom and that we are to preach it.

You see without bias the truth is:

Within the circulatory system blood is either blue or green. This means blood turns red when the hemoglobin on the erythrocytes (red blood cells) become covered with oxygen in the atmosphere.
The problem is everything in the air gets sucked into it to.

Like the Oreck filtration system commercials show there’s alot of contaminants (Black stuff) in the air. These contaminants include the diseases accumlated in hospitals (when drawn in hospitals). It is a well known fact that more people get sick in the hopital than anywhere else. There is currently no way to avoid the contamination of blood.

Also Blood like anything else foreign to the body, has the risk of rejection, or atleast causes the body more difficulty in healing itself due to having to adapt to the foreign material. [During the beginning of the AIDS pandemic in the 1980’s over 30,000 hemophiliacs aquired the disease from tainted Plasma which is a component of blood. Plasma screening was the most thorough blood screening system at that time]

Blood conservation techniques have the same mortality rate as using blood in surgery. The major difference is the lack of knowledge in these techniques and the fact that healing time is much shorter in blood conservation.

Another difference would be the use of electrocauterization (Electrcally closing cuts or surgical openings in the body). This almost imediately seals the openings without waiting for stitches to heal.

The truth is the bible used terms such as clean and unclean or holy and unholy to describe thngs that we now are beginning to understand as aseptic/septic (sannitary, unsanitary) or other definitions according to their context. This also applies to the food that we eat according the biblical laws, but those laws are no longer practiced with the admittance of gentiles.

Wether the interpretation of the scriptures are argued one way or another the scientific facts would still exist even with out the Jehovah’s witnesses.

Greetings . The JW’s Organization is also decieved by believing in the ” governing body of charlatons ” who are no better than Charles Taze Russell , rather than believing in Immanuel Messiah’s Scriptures … Good will , John , Bunbury City , Western Australia .

Marisol;
Would you be so kind as to allow me to examine your comments and have you explain how you came to your conclusions? You ask that we should investigate better and inform ourselves why the Watchtower makes its doctrines when all they do is follow what the bible says.
That is not true. This website is filled with mistakes that the Watchtower has made over the years. My question is to you now. Just how honest will you be with yourself in your examination of all these facts? It could take you weeks to sift through all the facts that have been carefully cataloged by this webmaster. You owe it to yourself and all you associate with to at least do some digging and asking your own questions and thinking for yourself, not letting the Watchtower make your decisions. YOU need to be in control of your own salvation through YOUR own study and decision making. The easy way out is to allow someone else feed you all the Watchtower information. The hard part is to find out for yourself if all the information is true. Get up off your comfy seat and make some decisions for yourself.

Apparently we are posting at the same time Fri.
Good to chat with you again.
I trust you & Markus are doing fine?

If there is one thing I can’t stand it is assumption.

There is no question that everyone can learn from Biblical stories, parables & its recounting of historical events.
However here is where a JW’s caveat exists:
They as a clan are taught to immediately place themselves in the same position as those who were God’s spokesmen, assuming that they too are in some special position to God.

If this were true, then just like those in the Bible, they too would represent a faith that is totally based on factual doctrines. Truth is nothing could be further from the truth.

The Watchtower Society has long participated and basically invented a system where they change their doctrines, premonitions & predictions as readily & constantly as the climate. Perhaps they too are a victim of global warming as projected by the media?

Consider that every JW will blindly believe anything coming from the Watchtower, accepting all aspects without a single shred of proof, other than how it is presented and worded by the Watchtower as if it was written by God himself. Would God constantly provide wrong dates for the end of world? What about their propensity for misquoting scientists, outright lying, hypocrisy, mishandling pedophilia problem, involvement with the UN & ownership of companies involved with weapons manufacture? Is this something I should accept as not only inspired of God, but God-like as well?

Yes the Bible teaches many good stories that should be used as a guideline; however this does not mean we need to embrace your ill-conceived ideology from the JW God better known as the Watchtower.

Lot and his family, Noah and his family was also ridiculed by the majority. Well, what happened to the majority in Seldom and Gomarah, and the majority who didn’t heed Noah’s warnings when the great flood came?

will take diet pills really a bad for you,and eat bad food.. But won’t take blood transfusions?????????