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Judge rules that a wife of a Jehovah's Witness may receive a blood transfusion

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Jehovah's Witnesses and blood transfusionA judge has ruled that Tawnya Nissen, a 27 year old comatose woman, may receive a blood transfusion, despite her Jehovah’s Witness husband’s objections that blood transfusions are against God’s will.

Tawnya has been unconscious since July 31, when she collapsed because of a bad reaction to a diet drug. Doctors told the family that she might need a blood transfusion if she had to undergo a tracheotomy or other emergency surgery. Tawnya has not needed a blood transfusion, and her condition has improved. But she remains unconscious, and her father — who is not a Jehovah’s Witness — asked a judge to give him, rather than her husband Chris Nissen, the power to decide on her treatment.

Both sides agree that Tawnya has studied the teachings of Jehovah’s Witnesses but has not been baptized as one. They disagree over how committed she is to the religion’s stance against blood transfusions.

Frank Santiago, the husband’s lawyer, said Tawnya signed a card identifying herself as a Jehovah’s Witness and saying she did not want blood. But her husband has been unable to find that card.

Her aunt, Becky Reid said, Tawnya Nissen seemed less committed to the Jehovah’s Witness religion than her husband was. “We feel if she was that interested in converting, she would have been baptized.”

Johnson County District Judge Marsha Beckelman ruled Tuesday that Tawnya Nissen’s father, Richard Reid, should be granted temporary guardianship to make medical decisions until Nissen regains consciousness. Husband Chris Nissen has the right to be present during discussions of his wife’s care.

“We’re unhappy about it,” Santiago said of Beckelman’s ruling. “Of course our main concern is the interest of Tawnya, and we believe that the husband is in a better position to make sure that Tawnya received all the medical attention that she herself would want.”

‘‘It’s like our prayers have been answered,’’ said Richard Reid Sr., Tawnya’s grandfather who is not a member of the Jehovah’s Witnesses.

Based on The Desmoines Register and ReligionNewsBlog.com articles

  1. louise
    May 27th, 2014 at 20:54 | #1

    when the book of Jehovah was written they did not have blood transfusions, my own interpretation is that is is written regarding ingesting blood known to harbor infections for safety’s sake, which did happen at that time. It says that you should not take something from someone else, stealing ? of course not, but by agreed donation ? I myself am willing to donate my blood to someone who needs it to live ” God helps those that help themselves”. I have had a blood transfusion, once I was offered one as I was borderline, I refused, 2nd time I was about to die, I couldn’t see properly from blood loss, my heart was in tachycardia, I needed emergency surgery to survive, to do that they had to transfuse me so my veins were not collapsed and they were able to accept an anesthetic. As a result I am here today, had I not accepted I would have bled out 100% and died, I had minimum blood volume and was still bleeding rapidly, yet I am here to see my children grow, I am alive, I am here to teach them right from wrong, the charitable donations of others, gladly offered saved my life.I was not stealing from them, I was receiving offered help. It had been screened for disease, I don’t have any, we make blood within hours of giving it to save someone, our bodies are programmed to lose it, give it and compensate. I don’t have anything from their life except a gratitude from the unknown to me person who allowed me to live. They are still themselves, I am still me. In pre planned treatments I agree, it is better if possible to not take blood, but in the unexpected!

  2. Markus
    May 5th, 2014 at 10:08 | #2

    To Quote the late great George Carlin:
    Abortions -Christians are very much against. Homosexuality -Christians are very much against. Now which group of people will probably never have an abortion ….the homosexuals of course.
    Cheers,
    Markus

  3. Maxximiliann
    August 21st, 2013 at 22:42 | #3

    @Louisa
    If I may ask, are you also against abortions?

  4. adrian
    April 16th, 2013 at 16:50 | #4

    all invented religions are going nowhere. just abide by the law of the land and sleep peacefully at night. if the world ends so what, there have probably been a trillion before us. be cool broer and don’t stress, God is cool as well. time will never end.

  5. Alex
    November 30th, 2012 at 07:27 | #5

    “No real JW will entertain the thoughts left on this website . .why bother?”

    Do you think humans have a prosperous future coming in the 21st century ? Or is the very existence of the human race threatened by its own stupidity at almost every conceivable turn !??

    Find out about the “Tsar Bomb” . . .and that was in the 1960’s. I wonder what they have available now .. . .

    Do you really imagine we don’t live in the end times!?? Or are you blissfully unaware of the U235 hydrogen devices that are currently at 15 minute launch preparedness!???????????

    JFK talked about the “Sword of Damocles” hanging over the head of every human . .. Was he misguided ?? Or a realist who knew better than anyone that global destruction was a constant possibility???????????????

    Was the WTBS really exaggerating about the ‘end times’???? Maybe you should have asked Robert Oppenheimer when he quoted the famous Hindu scripture . . .

    Alea Iacta Est

  6. Alex
    November 30th, 2012 at 07:13 | #6

    So all you ‘hard core’ realists think that we don’t live in the End Times!??? Nothing could be further from the Truth . . .If you want the real answers to this, just research MILITARY HISTORY.
    What did Robet Oppenheimer say ? What was the purpose of SAC ? Did you know the world was on the brink of ending more than a few times ie. 1962, 1995 ? Why do many of the world’s leading figures worried NOW about the spead of U235 technology?? If you think this is all false – PLEASE buy the DVD “Countdown to ZERO” and watch with relish . . . .Humanity’s feeble existence has been constantly threatened with annihilation through self created stupidity. The bottom line ? The WTBS was ON THE RIGHT TRACK. Our world is threatened like never before. And if you dispute this – buy another hard hitting DVD: “Trinity and Beyond”. See the U235 explosions all over the earth . . .
    “Iacta Alea Est” . . .the realists KNOW that this world almost did end. These people run the Militaries all over the world. The WTBS view amazingly agrees in line with this.
    Any comments!????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

  7. Louisa
    October 16th, 2012 at 17:23 | #7

    My Dear aunty is lying in hospital now with bacterial pneumonia! her blood is infected and her kidneys are not strong enough to clean her blood themselves! She is a JW and has signed a card to say she will not accept a blood transfusion if needed. I do not know, that if she could have seen in to the future and knew that this was going to happen to her, that she would of signed this card!!?? She is barely conscious and cannot be asked the question! To me this is signing your life away, its commiting murder on yourself! If it comes down to it, how can her family watch this beautiful, kind lady die because of this ridiculous belief? I am 25, maybe a little ignorant and nieve towards this religion but surely it is wrong to deny yourself the right of life?? Im very confused and upset and maybe somebody can help me?

  8. Amy
    July 18th, 2012 at 21:10 | #8

    @Anonymous
    The blood that is referred to in all of these scriptures is animal blood not human blood. Human to human transfusion is not the same as drinking or eating animal blood. And one more thing why don’t JW’s act like Orthodox Jewish people and only eat Kosher meat?

  9. Amy
    July 18th, 2012 at 20:54 | #9

    I want to say that the Bible does NOT forbid blood transfusions it does however forbid the eating of blood from animals. Specifically it is talking about the Pagans during biblical times would go out and hunt in groups and when they killed the animals they would drink the blood of the animal. God viewed the blood as the life essence of the animal and it was considered sacred and atonement for sin. When the Jewish nation would eat the meat it would need to be clean of all of the blood. If it is forbidden to partake in any blood then why can JW’s eat meat that is not drained of blood. This scripture is also talking about animal to human and not human to human. These people are brainwashed. It is quite sad.

  10. bevan
    February 24th, 2012 at 20:44 | #10

    Jesus said a slave is not greater than his master! because they hated me they will also hate you! so why is their so much negativity and hate about Jehovahs organisation???

    What puzzles me is their is so much trash talk about this religion and yet they are the most peaceful religion in the world!!!

    I would be more worried about the money grabbing, child molestering, war mongering murdering christians i.e Holy crusades, terrorism and racism that is rampant in the majority of the worlds religions today than the petty and false accusations against Jahs people contained in similar websites to this one!

    Soon all will know that Jehovah is the most high over all the earth and every head and every knee will bow to the most holy represented by our king Jesus christ.

  11. DEATRA
    June 3rd, 2010 at 16:29 | #11

    WELL THE BIBLE DOES CONDEM BLOOD TRANSFUSIONS

  12. sparky
    November 7th, 2007 at 02:19 | #12

    to mark

    the other comment is directed to f.hall not to you.

    start small. contact your nearest kingdom hall to find out what time the sunday meeting is held. if you have a bible take it with you.

    JW’s use the New World Translation of the holy scriptures which is based on the Wescott and Hort text of the greek scriptures and reliable manuscripts of hebrew and aramaic. before this translation came out in the 1950’s the King James authorised version of 1611.

    the public talk is just that : a talk for the public and for JW’s. take a notepad and pencil to write down notations, scriptures , comments and reasonings that you can take home with you and read back. you will be warmly welcomed. you may even meet someone you know; a neighbour or a workmate. if you stay to end of the two sessions you can ask all the questions you like, alternately if you go at the end of the public talk just talk to the guy in the entrance hall, he’ll make sure you get all the necessary info you need.

    remember: start small. prove it to yourself. think about it. you may be pleasantly surprised to have found the true religion depite what others say.

  13. sparky
    November 7th, 2007 at 01:53 | #13

    thou hast been deceived so sayeth the apostate.

    yeah right! what went first? the meetings? or the ministry? was it prayer or study? or was it that something was said that you did not like? did an expectation not get fulfilled when you wanted it to? or that God does not need an org on the earth?

    there: a choice for you. Pride and a lack of humility fit most of the above. you have to blame someone as long as it is not yourself. then you can sleep easy and wait for armageddon and hope you are on the right side.

    as Jesus himself said; he has a faithful steward and that not all professing christians will be saved but the one doing the will of his Father would.

    as Micah also says in the time of the end you will tell clearly who serves God against those who haven’t come to know him.

  14. noemi castillo
    August 3rd, 2007 at 01:20 | #14

    I cant beleive that after being Jehovas Witness you speak the way you do, life now is horrible full of problems because of the devil, and God is making out a point by letting time pass. Hes letting people see by themselves that men can not guide himself without the guidence of his creator, Jehova God. Honesytly I dont know were or how youre living better know, the truth is that it never really went to the heart and when that happens well you dont have anything to live for, I feel sorry for you.

  15. noemi castillo
    August 3rd, 2007 at 01:03 | #15

    First of all, if you have read youre bible, you would know that God is the Fountain of life. He gave you and I the privilege of living.If he takes life away from you,dont you think he is powerfull enough to give it back? Think about it. Look around.honestly look around.Maybe youre in a room, at work, in the srteet, or at a starbucks, the point ,is that God is very lovable by creating such wonderfull things for us human beings to enjoy. The very least we can do is appreciate them and not call God a murderer, or a killer.

    From reading youre coment I can tell the kind of person you are ( Dont take it bad) i encourage you not only to read youre bible , but actually meditate what it says, and if youre sincerely looking for the truth you will find it only, if that merely is youre intention, because remember God is watching over you and me .

  16. noemi castillo
    August 3rd, 2007 at 01:03 | #16

    First of all, if you have read youre bible, you would know that God is the Fountain of life. He gave you and I the privilege of living.If he takes life away from you,dont you think he is powerfull enough to give it back? Think about it. Look around.honestly look around.Maybe youre in a room, at work, in the srteet, or at a starbucks, the point ,is that God is very lovable by creating such wonderfull things for us human beings to enjoy. The very least we can do is appreciate them and not call God a murderer, or a killer.

    From reading youre coment I can tell the kind of person you are ( Dont take it bad) i encourage you not only to read youre bible , but actually meditate what it says, and if youre sincerely looking for the truth you will find it only, if that merely is youre intention, because remember God is watching over you and me .

  17. Ray
    July 4th, 2007 at 20:23 | #17

    Do you know what really happens?

    They are consulting their lawyers to know haw many changes they can do, (because they know they are wrong with blood) so they won´t have to pay all the demands against them that can be like strong rain over the wts.

    They adore their money more than JW life

  18. Zecharai
    June 15th, 2007 at 12:27 | #18

    I am jew and speak hebrew essential for my faith, I can tell you you are right about Yahweh being the more correct prononciation, but translating that name for the english language i can tell you that jehovah is the closest bet.
    Example, The name Peter, for the french will become Pierre/ Stephen in french become Etienne/ for James the french have the equivalent Jacques…

  19. Anonymous
    June 6th, 2007 at 21:55 | #19

    I am very sure that blood and other instructions of the wtbt are only “MEN COMMANDMENTS” and they come only from Brooklyn, not from haeven.

    Be happy, be free!

  20. Ray
    June 6th, 2007 at 21:50 | #20

    Friends, please think:

    Which are the “small parts” or fractions of fornication ando honesty?

    What is more important, the marriage or the ring?

  21. Anne Marie
    June 3rd, 2007 at 20:41 | #21

    Dear Poster,

    I can tell by your post that you are much too young to know what you are talking about. (And I truly mean no disrespect!!)

    I still have my bound volumes from many years back. And precious one, you are so very wrong. They have not only asserted that they were “prophets,” they BRAGGED about it!!

    Do you know that approximately four thousand Jehovah’s Witnesses leave the oganziation every single year? True, many may have died, and many may have been disfellowshipped for gross wrong doing, but it is still a sad fact that many are “put out” because they discovered the truth about “the truth.” And many are actually “in hiding,” because if they are not TECHICALLY disfellowshipped, they can still see their children and their parents.

    In 1920, Rutherford published his book, “Millions Now Living Will Never Die!” and almost all JWs at that time believed it! Armageddon was supposed to come by 1925 (the third or fourth Watchtower “Armageddon Date”) and many JWs sold their homes and businesses and took to the streets, preaching the immiment “end of the world,” and selling Rutherford’s books. (That’s why they were called “Colporteurs,” because “colporteur” is a “peddler of religious books.”)

    And while the JW Pioneers, of that time, were living in JW camps, in virtual squalor, Rutherford was spending time at the mansion, “Beth Serim,” built with dollars earned from these Pioneers…and this is with “Depression Era” dollars, too!! And Rutherford vacationed in Europe while unemployed, and hungry Americans, were standing in soup lines.

    I remember the organization from as far back as 1960. I was at the convention that preached that Armageddon would most assuredly come in 1975, and was witness to the rush to purchase the book that had just been released, “proving” this newest “Amageddon Prophecy” to be true. There was a full five page chronological chart in the first chapter of the book to show that FOR SURE the brothers had it right THIS TIME!!

    The book was called, “Life Everlasting In Freedom Of The Sons Of God.”

    Stop and think. Why does the Watchtower hate people like me, so much!! Why do they rail against us, calling us “wicked apostates,” and “evil slaves,” and saying that we are “dogs that have returned to their vomit,” that we have “turned our backs on Jehovah,” and are now, “serving Satan”?? Why are they so strongly against JWs goning on the internet, looking for information on the Watchtower’s history?? What are they so afraid of??

    Jesus said in John 14:6 that HE IS THE TRUTH. The Watchtower Organization would have you believe that THEY are “the truth”; even referring to themselves as “the truth.”

    Jesus said that HE IS THE WAY. The Watchtower would have you believe that that is a lie…that the only WAY one can hope to know “truth,” or to be “right with Jehovah,” is to go THROUGH THEM!!

    Jesus said that HE IS THE LIFE. It is a travesty, to me, that JWs are so thoroughly indoctrinated by the Watchtower to believe that the only way they can hope to attain life is THROUGH THE WATCHTOWER ORGANIZATION, and this is just not the truth.

    Think about it. If joining an organization was essential to gaining everlasting life, why didn’t Jesus ever mention it?

  22. Anne Marie
    June 3rd, 2007 at 20:03 | #22

    When Jehovah God first told man that he could eat animal flesh, He commanded that the blood be spilled out upon the ground. This was out of respect to Jehovah, the “giver of life.”

    Blood was to be seen as “sacred,” because “the life is in the blood.” And so blood came to be respected by God fearing people, because it represented the life…and the life belongs to God.

    In those days of early Christianity, there was a quabble between Gentile Christians and Jewish Christians. The Jews, always a strict adherent to God’s law on blood, were horrifyed to see that their fellow Christian brothers ate blood.

    The “elders” of the day met to discuss the matter. Since all “Law” had been “nailed to the cross” with Jesus…ending the “curse of the law” for all man…Christians were no longer bound by the “law on blood.” However, to “keep the peace,” and to not “stumble” these newly converted Jews, the “elders” decided that, for the time being, at least, it was best to “keep abstaining from blood.”

    The Jehovah’s Witnesses content that this “law on blood” still stands. And thousands of JWs have faithfully died for it. However, the JWs have obviously not thought the “blood issue” through.

    First, the “blood law” is null and void. Our only “laws,” as Christians, is to “love God with all that we are, and to love one another as Christ loved us,” and that “on this the whole law stands.” So even if the Watchtower Society…the Governing Body, or the Faithful Slave…still firmly believes in the validity of this law for todays Christians, they still do not have the moral right to ENFORCE CONFORMITY on their members to this belief.

    Second, one must understand WHY blood was sacred. It is because THE LIFE IS IN THE BLOOD, therefore, it is not the blood, per se, that is sacred, but the LIFE that it REPRESENTS!

    It is the LIFE that is precious!!

    The Watchtower (who once told JWs that childhood vaccinations were “evil”) has made the BLOOD MORE IMPORTANT THAT THE LIFE IT REPRESENTS!!

    In the days of the early Christians, blood was being used as FOOD. Food is digested as such; just the same as if one ate liver for dinner, the liver is taken into the body as FOOD, and not to serve that body for the function the liver was created to perform.

    Today, a blood transfusion is blood going into a body that needs the blood to perform the function it was created to perform…just as a heart or kidney transplant (which the Watchtower also long banned as “against God’s law”)

    It is not “disrepecting life” to have a blood transfusion, but shows a terrible disrespect to life when a parent allows their child to bleed to death when it was not necessary.

  23. Jones
    May 23rd, 2007 at 19:05 | #23

    Lana,

    First off, let me share with you that I don’t have a dog in this fight. I’m not a JW but I have gotten a pretty good education from your published books and magazines. You can enlighten me with your take on what I am having difficulty understanding.

    History points out that many of your faith were encouraged to sell their homes in anticipation of the end. They were encouraged to refrain from any higher education as they would have no need for it. Now how could a religion see this happening within their ranks and not put a stop to it if they were not believing that these things would come to pass? Silence may be golden in some cases, but this was an overt act of cruelty from my viewpoint. The leadership by their silence, allowed this to happen.

  24. J.O
    May 23rd, 2007 at 18:38 | #24

    To LANA:
    Okay I have looked at your web-site and read what was there. As I was reading all the contents and quotes I noticed one thing. How the site said we were enemies of YHWH. Christians are not enemies of god, but emphasizes what the bible said about different teaching about Jesus which JW do. The bible talks about the wolves that will come in sheep’s clothing. Who goes knocking on the door coming to you about the good news JW do? When in reality Jesus already did that. That is why the bible is there for. The bible warns us of those that will deny the divinity of Jesus, who does this JW. JW teach that Jesus our savior was resurrected into a spirit creature and not resurrected in body. The JW teach that Jesus died on a stake or that he was impaled, which there is NO proof what’s so ever to support this lie. History and scholars and evidence show that Jesus was crucified. There is proof beyond a reasonable doubt that the Romans practiced this type of suffering. Impaled means to be stab or pierced which cause the death, Jesus died before the Roman solider pierced his side. Jesus even stated that if you do not believe that I am he you will not be saved. Emanuel means god among us HELLO, and finally JW teach that Jesus was a god. There is only one god, not god and a god that would give you 2 gods. JW have changed the bible and have added words to god’s word. Show proof and I will join, but you can’t can you.

  25. lana
    May 22nd, 2007 at 23:47 | #25

    For anyone interested in learning about the watch towers so called false prophecies please go to the flowing link I copy and pasted below. If you really want to learn the whole truth and not half truths. The page is well worth the read. I’m sure a lot of you spend a good amount of time on anti JW sites. If you are truly open minded, and don’t have an anti JW agenda; then I’m sure you will give this one as much consideration as you have anti JW sites. I think you may be surprised at how deceitful these anti JW sites have been. Taking quotes out of context and manipulating the truth. The bottom line is that the Watch Tower authors cannot be false prophets, because they have never claimed to be prophets. The Watch Tower is simply a Bible aid. Jehovah Witness are always encouraged to read the Bible daily. The Watch Tower can and never will take place of the Holy Scripture. Thank you for your consideration.

    http://www.jehovah.to/xlation/fp.html

  26. J.O
    May 21st, 2007 at 20:23 | #26

    To henry Collins
    THE UNIVERSAL JEWISH ENCYCLOPEDIA says “JEHOVAH is an erroneous pronunciation of the Tetragrammaton a four lettered name of God, made up of the Hebrew letters Yod He Vav He. The word “JEHOVAH” therefore is a misreading for which there is no warrant and which makes no sense in Hebrew” The Hebrew letters point to a Yod Y the more correct pronunciation is Yahweh or some form deriving from the same consonants. For example Yah is used in its shorter form in Ex.15:2 and 17:15, Isa.12:2 and Ps.118:14.
    JEHOVAH -”is an erroneous form of the name of the God of Israel.” (ENCYCLOPEDIA AMERICANA)
    JEHOVAH -”the pronunciation “Jehovah” is an error resulting among Christians from combining the consonants YHWH with the vowels of ADHONAY.” (ENCYCLOPEDIA BRITANNICA)
    JEHOVAH -”is an erroneous form of the divine name of the covenant God of Israel.” (THE NEW SCHAFF-HERZOG ENCYCLOPEDIA)
    JEHOVAH -”is a mispronunciation of the Hebrew YHWH the name of God. This pronunciation is grammatically impossible. The form “Jehovah” is a philological impossibility.” (THE JEWISH ENCYCLOPEDIA p. 160)
    While the pronouncement may still not be known one thing we do know, it’s not Jehovah. Where does the name Jehovah come from? We can trace the name Jehovah to the first person to use it, a Roman Catholic monk from the 1200’s. “The first recorded use of this form dates from the thirteenth century C.E. Raymundus Martini, a Spanish monk of the Dominican Order, used it in his book “Pugeo Fidei” of the year 1270.” (From Jehovah’s Witnesses own book “Aid to Bible Understanding” p.884). If you ever want to see a JW jaw drop tell them this.
    FACTS FATCS FACTS…not Lies and more Lies, like the NWT.

  27. Henry Collins
    May 18th, 2007 at 17:06 | #27

    YOU CANNOT DESCRIBE A COLOR TO SOMEONE WHO HAS NEVER SEEN LIGHT

    I have learned, sometimes painfully so, that you can’t open a person’s eyes when they have them tightly shut. By this I simply mean that it is easier to teach someone the truth when they are hungry for knowledge. That’s why the Bible at 1Corinthians: 2:14-16 says: “But a physical man does not receive the things of the spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; and he cannot get to know [them], because they are examined spiritually. However, the spiritual man examines indeed all things, but he himself is not examined by any man. For ‘who has come to know the mind of Jehovah, that he may instruct him?’” Whether it’s the blood issue or the beliefs of Jehovah’s Witnesses, there are people who simply have no interest in makings changes in their lives. They are content with their lot in life and simply want to be left to pursue the passions of their heart. For those of us who are children of the light and whose hope is the vindication of Jehovah’s name and his universal sovereignty remember the admonition of our King at Matthew 7:6.

  28. Mark
    May 7th, 2007 at 22:18 | #28

    Again, this sound rather odd to me.

    In a meeting at a Kingdom Hall, what texts are studied, and who sets the topic for a study?

    What bible do you use?

    When you run a bible study, what texts do you use, and who prepares the lessons for you?

    Who tells you what passages in the bible mean?

  29. Fred Hall
    May 7th, 2007 at 00:26 | #29

    The governing body has no relevance to the lives of Jehovah’s Witnesses as each Witness reads and studies the Bible. So there is nothing to be deceived about as the bible is clear about the kingdom and that we are to preach it.

  30. jeez
    April 9th, 2007 at 07:16 | #30

    I think you need to look in the dictionaary a little more and get a correct definition for cult. So, from what you’re saying, David Coresh and the branch davidians were not a cult, nor was rev. jim jones’ followers.

  31. abc123
    March 23rd, 2007 at 01:34 | #31

    You see without bias the truth is:

    Within the circulatory system blood is either blue or green. This means blood turns red when the hemoglobin on the erythrocytes (red blood cells) become covered with oxygen in the atmosphere.
    The problem is everything in the air gets sucked into it to.

    Like the Oreck filtration system commercials show there’s alot of contaminants (Black stuff) in the air. These contaminants include the diseases accumlated in hospitals (when drawn in hospitals). It is a well known fact that more people get sick in the hopital than anywhere else. There is currently no way to avoid the contamination of blood.

    Also Blood like anything else foreign to the body, has the risk of rejection, or atleast causes the body more difficulty in healing itself due to having to adapt to the foreign material. [During the beginning of the AIDS pandemic in the 1980’s over 30,000 hemophiliacs aquired the disease from tainted Plasma which is a component of blood. Plasma screening was the most thorough blood screening system at that time]

    Blood conservation techniques have the same mortality rate as using blood in surgery. The major difference is the lack of knowledge in these techniques and the fact that healing time is much shorter in blood conservation.

    Another difference would be the use of electrocauterization (Electrcally closing cuts or surgical openings in the body). This almost imediately seals the openings without waiting for stitches to heal.

    The truth is the bible used terms such as clean and unclean or holy and unholy to describe thngs that we now are beginning to understand as aseptic/septic (sannitary, unsanitary) or other definitions according to their context. This also applies to the food that we eat according the biblical laws, but those laws are no longer practiced with the admittance of gentiles.

    Wether the interpretation of the scriptures are argued one way or another the scientific facts would still exist even with out the Jehovah’s witnesses.

  32. Markus
    March 17th, 2007 at 00:34 | #32

    Praise God for all of your knowledge and God BLess you my brother in christ.

    Virtuous Woman

  33. john murie
    March 5th, 2007 at 08:53 | #33

    Greetings . The JW’s Organization is also decieved by believing in the ” governing body of charlatons ” who are no better than Charles Taze Russell , rather than believing in Immanuel Messiah’s Scriptures … Good will , John , Bunbury City , Western Australia .

  34. D111115
    February 21st, 2007 at 15:37 | #34

    I think there is nothing but rubbish within the congregation. You might wish to visit http://www.jehovahs-witness.com , http://www.watchtower.cc/wowbb , http://members.aol.com/Beyondjw/bj.htm , http://www.freeminds.org , and http://www.dannyhaszard.com before making a final decision to return. Fair warning: you might want to have the puke bucket ready before visiting, because some of the articles will make you sick about the way people are treated within the organization.

  35. Jones
    February 15th, 2007 at 23:45 | #35

    Marisol;
    Would you be so kind as to allow me to examine your comments and have you explain how you came to your conclusions? You ask that we should investigate better and inform ourselves why the Watchtower makes its doctrines when all they do is follow what the bible says.
    That is not true. This website is filled with mistakes that the Watchtower has made over the years. My question is to you now. Just how honest will you be with yourself in your examination of all these facts? It could take you weeks to sift through all the facts that have been carefully cataloged by this webmaster. You owe it to yourself and all you associate with to at least do some digging and asking your own questions and thinking for yourself, not letting the Watchtower make your decisions. YOU need to be in control of your own salvation through YOUR own study and decision making. The easy way out is to allow someone else feed you all the Watchtower information. The hard part is to find out for yourself if all the information is true. Get up off your comfy seat and make some decisions for yourself.

  36. Marisol
    February 15th, 2007 at 21:44 | #36

    u say that one thing u can’t stand is assumption but there u assume that the things the Watchtomer makes are not right!!!! U should investigate better and inform yourself why the Watchtower makes its doctrines when all they do is follow what the bible says…..

  37. James NON-JW
    February 9th, 2007 at 14:05 | #37

    Apparently we are posting at the same time Fri.
    Good to chat with you again.
    I trust you & Markus are doing fine?

  38. fri
    February 9th, 2007 at 14:03 | #38

    Victory, the Easter bunny and Santa clause have also been ridiculed by many but that is ok just Lot and Noah they are ALL fiction characters from very good stories.

    I have been away for a few weeks but is nice to see new people in.
    I see that jehovallah still comes back, oh what a clown.

    James, Markus how are things?

  39. James NON-JW
    February 9th, 2007 at 14:03 | #39

    If there is one thing I can’t stand it is assumption.

    There is no question that everyone can learn from Biblical stories, parables & its recounting of historical events.
    However here is where a JW’s caveat exists:
    They as a clan are taught to immediately place themselves in the same position as those who were God’s spokesmen, assuming that they too are in some special position to God.

    If this were true, then just like those in the Bible, they too would represent a faith that is totally based on factual doctrines. Truth is nothing could be further from the truth.

    The Watchtower Society has long participated and basically invented a system where they change their doctrines, premonitions & predictions as readily & constantly as the climate. Perhaps they too are a victim of global warming as projected by the media?

    Consider that every JW will blindly believe anything coming from the Watchtower, accepting all aspects without a single shred of proof, other than how it is presented and worded by the Watchtower as if it was written by God himself. Would God constantly provide wrong dates for the end of world? What about their propensity for misquoting scientists, outright lying, hypocrisy, mishandling pedophilia problem, involvement with the UN & ownership of companies involved with weapons manufacture? Is this something I should accept as not only inspired of God, but God-like as well?

    Yes the Bible teaches many good stories that should be used as a guideline; however this does not mean we need to embrace your ill-conceived ideology from the JW God better known as the Watchtower.

  40. Victory
    February 9th, 2007 at 10:29 | #40

    Lot and his family, Noah and his family was also ridiculed by the majority. Well, what happened to the majority in Seldom and Gomarah, and the majority who didn’t heed Noah’s warnings when the great flood came?

  41. lynn
    February 7th, 2007 at 15:34 | #41

    will take diet pills really a bad for you,and eat bad food.. But won’t take blood transfusions?????????

  42. Carl
    January 16th, 2007 at 09:03 | #42

    Well I must say as an ex JW I have found this site quite amusing, albeit disturbing. I need to hear someone drolling on and on about JW’s like I need an enema bag shoved in my mouth. Those people are boring, empassioned about nothing meaningful, and socially isolative to a point of being drones.

  43. Observer
    January 9th, 2007 at 15:36 | #43

    Guys, no real JW will entertain the thoughts left on this website…why bother?

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