@DEATRA You’re right! thanks to this fantastic and very clear divine law, many deformed and underdeveloped sewer-rat cockroaches have croaked!!! ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ahhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!
glory and honor to the bible and to the Filthful and Disgraceful Slavebugger, without which all such scummish jehovagina witlesses wouldn’t have gotten outta our fucking hairy bean balls!!!!

WELL THE BIBLE DOES CONDEM BLOOD TRANSFUSIONS

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to mark

the other comment is directed to f.hall not to you.

start small. contact your nearest kingdom hall to find out what time the sunday meeting is held. if you have a bible take it with you.

JW’s use the New World Translation of the holy scriptures which is based on the Wescott and Hort text of the greek scriptures and reliable manuscripts of hebrew and aramaic. before this translation came out in the 1950’s the King James authorised version of 1611.

the public talk is just that : a talk for the public and for JW’s. take a notepad and pencil to write down notations, scriptures , comments and reasonings that you can take home with you and read back. you will be warmly welcomed. you may even meet someone you know; a neighbour or a workmate. if you stay to end of the two sessions you can ask all the questions you like, alternately if you go at the end of the public talk just talk to the guy in the entrance hall, he’ll make sure you get all the necessary info you need.

remember: start small. prove it to yourself. think about it. you may be pleasantly surprised to have found the true religion depite what others say.

thou hast been deceived so sayeth the apostate.

yeah right! what went first? the meetings? or the ministry? was it prayer or study? or was it that something was said that you did not like? did an expectation not get fulfilled when you wanted it to? or that God does not need an org on the earth?

there: a choice for you. Pride and a lack of humility fit most of the above. you have to blame someone as long as it is not yourself. then you can sleep easy and wait for armageddon and hope you are on the right side.

as Jesus himself said; he has a faithful steward and that not all professing christians will be saved but the one doing the will of his Father would.

as Micah also says in the time of the end you will tell clearly who serves God against those who haven’t come to know him.

Do you know what really happens?

They are consulting their lawyers to know haw many changes they can do, (because they know they are wrong with blood) so they won´t have to pay all the demands against them that can be like strong rain over the wts.

They adore their money more than JW life

YOD HE VAV HE PLS.REVEAL;YOUR TRUE POWER.PHILS.THE SILVVER.THANK YOU.AMEN.

Progress my friend! For the better or worse…progress.

Such a pity that it had to go to the courts.
Religion has caused so many uneccesary deaths.
She got the blood transfusion because of Gods will, not the courts. If God didn’t want it to happen…it wouldn’t.

Dear Poster,

I can tell by your post that you are much too young to know what you are talking about. (And I truly mean no disrespect!!)

I still have my bound volumes from many years back. And precious one, you are so very wrong. They have not only asserted that they were “prophets,” they BRAGGED about it!!

Do you know that approximately four thousand Jehovah’s Witnesses leave the oganziation every single year? True, many may have died, and many may have been disfellowshipped for gross wrong doing, but it is still a sad fact that many are “put out” because they discovered the truth about “the truth.” And many are actually “in hiding,” because if they are not TECHICALLY disfellowshipped, they can still see their children and their parents.

In 1920, Rutherford published his book, “Millions Now Living Will Never Die!” and almost all JWs at that time believed it! Armageddon was supposed to come by 1925 (the third or fourth Watchtower “Armageddon Date”) and many JWs sold their homes and businesses and took to the streets, preaching the immiment “end of the world,” and selling Rutherford’s books. (That’s why they were called “Colporteurs,” because “colporteur” is a “peddler of religious books.”)

And while the JW Pioneers, of that time, were living in JW camps, in virtual squalor, Rutherford was spending time at the mansion, “Beth Serim,” built with dollars earned from these Pioneers…and this is with “Depression Era” dollars, too!! And Rutherford vacationed in Europe while unemployed, and hungry Americans, were standing in soup lines.

I remember the organization from as far back as 1960. I was at the convention that preached that Armageddon would most assuredly come in 1975, and was witness to the rush to purchase the book that had just been released, “proving” this newest “Amageddon Prophecy” to be true. There was a full five page chronological chart in the first chapter of the book to show that FOR SURE the brothers had it right THIS TIME!!

The book was called, “Life Everlasting In Freedom Of The Sons Of God.”

Stop and think. Why does the Watchtower hate people like me, so much!! Why do they rail against us, calling us “wicked apostates,” and “evil slaves,” and saying that we are “dogs that have returned to their vomit,” that we have “turned our backs on Jehovah,” and are now, “serving Satan”?? Why are they so strongly against JWs goning on the internet, looking for information on the Watchtower’s history?? What are they so afraid of??

Jesus said in John 14:6 that HE IS THE TRUTH. The Watchtower Organization would have you believe that THEY are “the truth”; even referring to themselves as “the truth.”

Jesus said that HE IS THE WAY. The Watchtower would have you believe that that is a lie…that the only WAY one can hope to know “truth,” or to be “right with Jehovah,” is to go THROUGH THEM!!

Jesus said that HE IS THE LIFE. It is a travesty, to me, that JWs are so thoroughly indoctrinated by the Watchtower to believe that the only way they can hope to attain life is THROUGH THE WATCHTOWER ORGANIZATION, and this is just not the truth.

Think about it. If joining an organization was essential to gaining everlasting life, why didn’t Jesus ever mention it?

When Jehovah God first told man that he could eat animal flesh, He commanded that the blood be spilled out upon the ground. This was out of respect to Jehovah, the “giver of life.”

Blood was to be seen as “sacred,” because “the life is in the blood.” And so blood came to be respected by God fearing people, because it represented the life…and the life belongs to God.

In those days of early Christianity, there was a quabble between Gentile Christians and Jewish Christians. The Jews, always a strict adherent to God’s law on blood, were horrifyed to see that their fellow Christian brothers ate blood.

The “elders” of the day met to discuss the matter. Since all “Law” had been “nailed to the cross” with Jesus…ending the “curse of the law” for all man…Christians were no longer bound by the “law on blood.” However, to “keep the peace,” and to not “stumble” these newly converted Jews, the “elders” decided that, for the time being, at least, it was best to “keep abstaining from blood.”

The Jehovah’s Witnesses content that this “law on blood” still stands. And thousands of JWs have faithfully died for it. However, the JWs have obviously not thought the “blood issue” through.

First, the “blood law” is null and void. Our only “laws,” as Christians, is to “love God with all that we are, and to love one another as Christ loved us,” and that “on this the whole law stands.” So even if the Watchtower Society…the Governing Body, or the Faithful Slave…still firmly believes in the validity of this law for todays Christians, they still do not have the moral right to ENFORCE CONFORMITY on their members to this belief.

Second, one must understand WHY blood was sacred. It is because THE LIFE IS IN THE BLOOD, therefore, it is not the blood, per se, that is sacred, but the LIFE that it REPRESENTS!

It is the LIFE that is precious!!

The Watchtower (who once told JWs that childhood vaccinations were “evil”) has made the BLOOD MORE IMPORTANT THAT THE LIFE IT REPRESENTS!!

In the days of the early Christians, blood was being used as FOOD. Food is digested as such; just the same as if one ate liver for dinner, the liver is taken into the body as FOOD, and not to serve that body for the function the liver was created to perform.

Today, a blood transfusion is blood going into a body that needs the blood to perform the function it was created to perform…just as a heart or kidney transplant (which the Watchtower also long banned as “against God’s law”)

It is not “disrepecting life” to have a blood transfusion, but shows a terrible disrespect to life when a parent allows their child to bleed to death when it was not necessary.

Lana,

First off, let me share with you that I don’t have a dog in this fight. I’m not a JW but I have gotten a pretty good education from your published books and magazines. You can enlighten me with your take on what I am having difficulty understanding.

History points out that many of your faith were encouraged to sell their homes in anticipation of the end. They were encouraged to refrain from any higher education as they would have no need for it. Now how could a religion see this happening within their ranks and not put a stop to it if they were not believing that these things would come to pass? Silence may be golden in some cases, but this was an overt act of cruelty from my viewpoint. The leadership by their silence, allowed this to happen.

YOU CANNOT DESCRIBE A COLOR TO SOMEONE WHO HAS NEVER SEEN LIGHT

I have learned, sometimes painfully so, that you can’t open a person’s eyes when they have them tightly shut. By this I simply mean that it is easier to teach someone the truth when they are hungry for knowledge. That’s why the Bible at 1Corinthians: 2:14-16 says: “But a physical man does not receive the things of the spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; and he cannot get to know [them], because they are examined spiritually. However, the spiritual man examines indeed all things, but he himself is not examined by any man. For ‘who has come to know the mind of Jehovah, that he may instruct him?’” Whether it’s the blood issue or the beliefs of Jehovah’s Witnesses, there are people who simply have no interest in makings changes in their lives. They are content with their lot in life and simply want to be left to pursue the passions of their heart. For those of us who are children of the light and whose hope is the vindication of Jehovah’s name and his universal sovereignty remember the admonition of our King at Matthew 7:6.

The governing body has no relevance to the lives of Jehovah’s Witnesses as each Witness reads and studies the Bible. So there is nothing to be deceived about as the bible is clear about the kingdom and that we are to preach it.

You see without bias the truth is:

Within the circulatory system blood is either blue or green. This means blood turns red when the hemoglobin on the erythrocytes (red blood cells) become covered with oxygen in the atmosphere.
The problem is everything in the air gets sucked into it to.

Like the Oreck filtration system commercials show there’s alot of contaminants (Black stuff) in the air. These contaminants include the diseases accumlated in hospitals (when drawn in hospitals). It is a well known fact that more people get sick in the hopital than anywhere else. There is currently no way to avoid the contamination of blood.

Also Blood like anything else foreign to the body, has the risk of rejection, or atleast causes the body more difficulty in healing itself due to having to adapt to the foreign material. [During the beginning of the AIDS pandemic in the 1980’s over 30,000 hemophiliacs aquired the disease from tainted Plasma which is a component of blood. Plasma screening was the most thorough blood screening system at that time]

Blood conservation techniques have the same mortality rate as using blood in surgery. The major difference is the lack of knowledge in these techniques and the fact that healing time is much shorter in blood conservation.

Another difference would be the use of electrocauterization (Electrcally closing cuts or surgical openings in the body). This almost imediately seals the openings without waiting for stitches to heal.

The truth is the bible used terms such as clean and unclean or holy and unholy to describe thngs that we now are beginning to understand as aseptic/septic (sannitary, unsanitary) or other definitions according to their context. This also applies to the food that we eat according the biblical laws, but those laws are no longer practiced with the admittance of gentiles.

Wether the interpretation of the scriptures are argued one way or another the scientific facts would still exist even with out the Jehovah’s witnesses.

Greetings . The JW’s Organization is also decieved by believing in the ” governing body of charlatons ” who are no better than Charles Taze Russell , rather than believing in Immanuel Messiah’s Scriptures … Good will , John , Bunbury City , Western Australia .

Marisol;
Would you be so kind as to allow me to examine your comments and have you explain how you came to your conclusions? You ask that we should investigate better and inform ourselves why the Watchtower makes its doctrines when all they do is follow what the bible says.
That is not true. This website is filled with mistakes that the Watchtower has made over the years. My question is to you now. Just how honest will you be with yourself in your examination of all these facts? It could take you weeks to sift through all the facts that have been carefully cataloged by this webmaster. You owe it to yourself and all you associate with to at least do some digging and asking your own questions and thinking for yourself, not letting the Watchtower make your decisions. YOU need to be in control of your own salvation through YOUR own study and decision making. The easy way out is to allow someone else feed you all the Watchtower information. The hard part is to find out for yourself if all the information is true. Get up off your comfy seat and make some decisions for yourself.

James and fri,

Howzit going fellows, I started a new contract a few days ago, I am now again in my element, no more shouting, begging, pleading or threatening to get work done on time. I am now once again responsible for only my own actions. I now work very long hours as I get paid per hour. Pity I will be spending less time on this site, I love exchanging comments with the regular folk,
ie. Ber, Jesus who, Jones and also other devout fundies, even Manfred who turned out to be a holier than thou chickenshit, who has since withdrawn himself from the profanity.
You will see my comments now and again but with less frequently.

I just love winding Christians up, because most think themselves so clever whilst knowing minimal amounts about the Bible or Biblegod, their attention is focused
only on the parts they know and love ie. Jesus, (of dubious existence), loves them and they will be saved in the midst of everyone else getting roasted or obliterated.
The interesting part is that the getting roasted believers cannot stand the getting obliterated believers and visa versa. Were we not told on various occasions to love each other? I still reckon that if you cram as many different denominations into a hall as is possible, each one will believe himself on the narrow road to bliss and all others on the crammed freeway to their sorry fate.
Biblegod in all his wisdom, had the good book written in a manner so that practically anyone can interpret anything they so desire and boy, is the clergy guilty of this?

One usually finds that the dreaded Atheist knows more about the good book than his fellow Bible thumper, which is why he is Atheist.
I personally like the idea that free minded people like myself do no longer get burned at the stake as was done so kindly by the so called ‘people of God’.

Anyway, enough winding up for one day, keep well and will catch you later.

Cheers,
Markus

Apparently we are posting at the same time Fri.
Good to chat with you again.
I trust you & Markus are doing fine?

If there is one thing I can’t stand it is assumption.

There is no question that everyone can learn from Biblical stories, parables & its recounting of historical events.
However here is where a JW’s caveat exists:
They as a clan are taught to immediately place themselves in the same position as those who were God’s spokesmen, assuming that they too are in some special position to God.

If this were true, then just like those in the Bible, they too would represent a faith that is totally based on factual doctrines. Truth is nothing could be further from the truth.

The Watchtower Society has long participated and basically invented a system where they change their doctrines, premonitions & predictions as readily & constantly as the climate. Perhaps they too are a victim of global warming as projected by the media?

Consider that every JW will blindly believe anything coming from the Watchtower, accepting all aspects without a single shred of proof, other than how it is presented and worded by the Watchtower as if it was written by God himself. Would God constantly provide wrong dates for the end of world? What about their propensity for misquoting scientists, outright lying, hypocrisy, mishandling pedophilia problem, involvement with the UN & ownership of companies involved with weapons manufacture? Is this something I should accept as not only inspired of God, but God-like as well?

Yes the Bible teaches many good stories that should be used as a guideline; however this does not mean we need to embrace your ill-conceived ideology from the JW God better known as the Watchtower.

Lot and his family, Noah and his family was also ridiculed by the majority. Well, what happened to the majority in Seldom and Gomarah, and the majority who didn’t heed Noah’s warnings when the great flood came?

will take diet pills really a bad for you,and eat bad food.. But won’t take blood transfusions?????????

Acts 15:29 is not speaking about the consumption of blood. As with every other use of “blood” in the Hebrew and Greek Scriptures, the word refers to “death”, usually a violent one.

In a blood transfusion, the presence of blood in a medical bag never represents the death of the donor, let alone a violent one.

Acts 15:29 must be understood in the same way that it was understood by the original hearers and by the primitive church.

When Gentiles started to join this Jewish sect, the primitive body faced a major major hurdle. How were Jewish standards such as circumcision and religious practices to be accommodated? What was expected of the Jewish members? What was expected of the Gentiles members? This is the thrust of the meeting recorded at Acts 15.

In his summation and pronouncement, James pointed the Gentile members to a passage in the Hebrew Scriptures that if they understood its underlying significance for the Jews, would help them understand the Jewish members better (”do well”).

During the Babylonian Captivity, when Ezekiel heard that Jerusalem had been destroyed, he wrote to the Jews:
“Therefore say to them, `This is what the Sovereign LORD says: Since you EAT MEAT WITH THE BLOOD still in it and look to your IDOLS AND SHED BLOOD, should you then possess the land? You rely on your SWORD, you do detestable things, and each of you DEFILES HIS NEIGHBOR’S WIFE. Should you then possess the land?” (Ezekiel 33: 25 – 26 NIV, emphases supplied)

Note the parallels between this statement by Ezekiel and the statement made by James centuries later.
“You are to abstain from FOOD SACRIFICED TO IDOLS ["look to your idols and shed blood"], from BLOOD ["your sword"], from the MEAT OF STRANGLED ANIMALS ["eat meat with the blood still in it"] and from SEXUAL IMMORALITY ["defiles his neighbor's wife"]. You will do well to avoid these things.” (Acts 15: 29 NIV, emphases supplied). See also verses 20 and 21.

When the issue arose again later between Christians of Jewish background (Acts 21:20, 24) and those of a Gentile background, the reasoning is repeated. See Acts 21:25.

These passages in Acts are thus saying to the Gentile Christians that when they understand the importance that the statement by Ezekiel has to those Christians who had been Jews, they will understand the importance circumcision has for them.

This confirms that by “blood”, James is speaking of death, a point made by early church fathers. Those Gentiles will “do well” to know how seriously the Jews take their heritage, so they should make allowances and be tolerant.

Acts 15:29 is not speaking about the consumption of blood. As with every other use of “blood” in the Hebrew and Greek Scriptures, the word refers to “death”, usually a violent one.

In a blood transfusion, the presence of blood in a medical bag never represents the death of the donor, let alone a violent one.

Acts 15:29 must be understood in the same way that it was understood by the original hearers and by the primitive church. They had no idea of modern technology any more than we know of the culture and technology of humanity 2000 years from now.

Jesus Christ was a Jew. His followers, known as The Way or as Christians, were a small Jewish sect.

When Gentiles started to join this Jewish sect, the primitive body faced a major major hurdle. How were Jewish standards such as circumcision and religious practices to be accommodated? What was expected of the Jewish members? What was expected of the Gentiles members? This is the thrust of the meeting recorded at Acts 15.

In his summation and pronouncement, James pointed the Gentile members to a passage in the Hebrew Scriptures that if they understood its underlying significance for the Jews, would help them understand the Jewish members better (“do well”).

The experience of the Jews during the Babylonian Captivity under Nebuchadnezzar left them with a deep collective memory they never could erase. (The book of Revelation draws on this.) This memory was constantly reinforced every Sabbath when the Scriptures were read to them.

During the Babylonian Captivity, when Ezekiel heard that Jerusalem had been destroyed, he wrote to the Jews:
“Therefore say to them, `This is what the Sovereign LORD says: Since you EAT MEAT WITH THE BLOOD still in it and look to your IDOLS AND SHED BLOOD, should you then possess the land? You rely on your SWORD, you do detestable things, and each of you DEFILES HIS NEIGHBOR’S WIFE. Should you then possess the land?” (Ezekiel 33: 25 – 26 NIV, emphases supplied)

Note the parallels between this statement by Ezekiel and the statement made by James centuries later.
“You are to abstain from FOOD SACRIFICED TO IDOLS [“look to your idols and shed blood”], from BLOOD [“your sword”], from the MEAT OF STRANGLED ANIMALS [“eat meat with the blood still in it”] and from SEXUAL IMMORALITY [“defiles his neighbor’s wife”]. You will do well to avoid these things.” (Acts 15: 29 NIV, emphases supplied). See also verses 20 and 21.

When the issue arose again later between Christians of Jewish background (Acts 21:20, 24) and those of a Gentile background, the reasoning is repeated:
“As for the Gentile believers, we have written to them our decision that they should ABSTAIN FROM FOOD SACRIFICED TO IDOLS, from BLOOD, from the MEAT OF STRANGLED ANIMALS and from SEXUAL IMMORALITY.” (Acts 21:25, NIV, emphases supplied)

These passages in Acts are thus saying to the Gentile Christians that when they understand the importance that the statement by Ezekiel has to those Christians who had been Jews, they will understand the importance circumcision has for them.

This confirms that by “blood”, James is speaking of death, a point made by early church fathers. Those Gentiles will “do well” to know how seriously the Jews take their heritage, so they should make allowances and be tolerant.

http://au.geocities.com/doug_mason1940/blood.html

I was interested in your lead story about the judge who permitted a comatose patient, the wife of a JW, to receive a blood transfusion.

I have recently prepared a study aimed at helping the medical and legal fraternity to understand the key issues and the factors to take into account when developing protocols and laws.

Go to http://au.geocities.com/doug_mason1940/blood.html and scroll down until you see the download file “Loyalty Test”.

If you think it’s of any use, please forward it to the people and organizations who frame the protocols practised in hospitals (etc.) and those who frame legislation.

If you have any comments, criticisms or corrections, I would dearly love to hear from you.

My email address will be found in the downloaded file.

Doug

Jehovah’s Witness Computer Viruses

Jehovah’s Witness Virus: Deletes all but 144000 select files.
Jehovah’s Witness-Unitarian Virus: Opens up a lot of windows, but for no apparent reason.
Jehovah’s Witness Virus: Keeps banging the head in your hard drive!
Drum Roll .. Ba Da Boom

*What do you get when you cross a devil worshipper with a Jehovah’s Witness? Someone who goes from door to door telling people to go to the lake of everlasting fire.

*I am a Jehovah’s Witness of Borg. You will be assimilated to the slave class of a publishing empire in Brooklyn.

The first bloodless surgery was performed this week in which a kid who is a Jehovah’s Witness got a new liver without a blood transfusion. The parents were so happy, they almost celebrated!
While traveling near Tampa, Florida I passed the “Jehovah’s Witness Assembly Hall” and was struck by the fact that that must be where they make them.

My Avon lady just became a Jehovah’s Witness. That may not mean much to you, but it saves me one more trip to the door.

I’m a Jehovah’s Bystander. We’s like the Witnesses, only we don’t wanna get involved.

Why don’t Jehovah’s Witnesses get killed during an earthquake? They’re always in your doorway. .

I’m in the Jehovah’s Witness protection program. I have to go around knocking on people’s doors and telling them I’m somebody else…

What do you get when you cross a Jehovah’s Witness with an agnostic? Someone who goes door to door for no apparent reason.

What do you get when you cross Jehovah’s Witness with a Mafia hitman ? Lots of converts.

Why do mobsters hate Jehovah’s Witnesses? They hate all witnesses!

These Jehovah’s Witnesses are sick of the ‘turn the other cheek’ way of spreading the word. Answer the door or else!

What does Hannibal Lector call a Jehovah’s Witness? Free delivery! .

I could never be a Jehovah’s Witness… I didn’t see the accident. As far as I know, Jehovah didn’t hit anybody. .

The Jehovah’s Witnesses sex scandal started its first day in court today. When they knocked on the door of the courthouse, nobody answered the door.

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Ask a Jehovah’s Witness: If Jesus were in the hospital and needed an operation, could he get a blood transfusion from God?

I learned something the other day. I learned the Jehovah’s Witnesses do not celebrate Halloween. I guess they don’t like strangers going up to their door and annoying them.

Light Bulb

How many Jehovah’s Witnesses does it take to change a light bulb?

Twelve. They all live in Brooklyn, and they have to keep changing it every day for “new light.”

Three. One to screw in the bulb, and two to knock on your door and ask you if you’ve seen the light!

None. They’re always getting “new light” from Brooklyn.

Nobody knows, they haven’t seen the light YET.

Competitors at the Door

Two missionaries of the Church of Latter-Day Saints were walking down the street when they ran into two Jehovah’s Witnesses coming directly at them from the opposite direction. The elders stopped, and one of the Jehovah’s Witnesses said, “We don’t move for false witnesses.” One of the Mormons said, “We do,” and they went around them.

I hope this isn’t cheating because this comment is not relative to the article, I just wanted to introduce myself, I am a former publisher of the JWs. I was never baptized, but my Mother is still very active in the orginization. She was here visiting, and while she was here, asked me to look up on the internet where the closest meeting was. While I was doing this, I stumbled upon rickross.com, and eventually ended up here, I have been glued to this site ever since. It was ten years of my life (6-16) with the JWs that I tried to push out of my mind, now that I am 27 it has snuck back in. I was fortunate enough to have an escape route, to live with my father and stepmother(not JWs), I could only imagine what it was like for the kids that wanted out and had nowhere to turn, I feel for them deeply. I am very grateful that this site exists, I have felt for a long time that I was the only person on earth with this strange history, really, what percent of the world is Ex JW? Anyway, I plan on being active on this site, I am going to post this comment on the very first article as well, the one where the webmaster introduces himself.

PS- Any Ex JWs from Massachusetts?

Act 15 is referring to the eating of blood. This was so the Gentiles would not be a stumbling block to the Christian Jews. The Orthodox Jews of today still follow the dietary laws, yet have no problem receiving blood transfusions. Why? I think it comes down to how you define “consumption” or “to consume” which is simply defined as “To take in as food; eat or drink up” Now the Watchtower claims that an intravenous blood transusion is like eating or drinking blood. I fail to see the connection, since a blood transfusion would do nothing for a starving person. You are simply replacing the blood that was lost, not consuming it. When the Bible is silent on a issue, then it is up to a persons freedom to decide. When an man or group of men try to tell someone what to do is such cases is called legalism.

LOL:-)

The devil laughed. He laughed a booming laugh so laud, the entire fiery kingdom shook, and his minions stopped for a moments and stared at their father below…

The devil had his chief adviser with him in the pit that served as his throne.

“Are you sure?” – “Yes, your Lowness, I have from a most reliable source.”

The laughter started again. “So that is what they want? ONLY the scriptures?” – “Yes, your Lowness.”

“Then we must give them their heart’s desire! How can we refuse? Let them have ONLY the scriptures and NOTHING else! Let them find in their scriptures a quote for every occasion, and support for every viewpoint. Let them find support for their desires of murderous revenge, and well as for being completely peaceful. Let the scriptures tell them to get married as well as to stay single, to have a divorce as required and to never divorce at all. Let them find that the eating of pork is both forbidden and compulsory. Let them find many more such things. Then let them argue about all these things and throw quotations of scripture at each other like so much dirt. Let each of them believe that the scriptures are only supporting him, and nobody else. Then let them insult each other, fight each other, even kill each other. Finally, let them die knowing every word of the scriptures, every dot and every comma, but knowing nothing at all about God, the accursed one.”

“Masterful, your Lowness!”

“I found your news most invigorating, minion. You thought of this masterful plan, almost worthy of myself?”
“There was a human by the name of Martin Luther, I believe. He thought of it first.”
The devil, still wiping the tears of laughter from his face, asked: “Why did you not bring him to me? I want to reward him!”
“Your Lowness, he is not here.” “Not here, not here in hell?”
“No, Your Lowness, he never was. You see, when he proposed the idea he had something quite different in mind, not at all like your ingenious plan. He went, I am sorry to say, to that other place…”
“Humans, what can you say? They are all alike. For the most part, stupid. Just every now and again one of them has a good idea and he does not even have the guts to see it through, eh? Well, that’s where we come in, isn’t it”

“Yes, your Lowness”