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	<title>Comments on: Canadian internet petition calling to make it illegal to refuse a blood transfusion</title>
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		<title>By: Shine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 06:47:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blood work would be done to deenrmite how bad the anemia is then the vet can recommend if the dog is sick enough that it need a transfusion (extreme case) or is you need to provide the dog with rest and supplements</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blood work would be done to deenrmite how bad the anemia is then the vet can recommend if the dog is sick enough that it need a transfusion (extreme case) or is you need to provide the dog with rest and supplements</p>
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		<title>By: Markus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Markus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Oct 2011 04:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Stupid Laws 
Hear hear good comment. The problem I have though is that some of these anti-blood nutjobs force their dogma on their own minor childen. This in my opinion is where authorities should step in.
Cheers,
Markus</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Stupid Laws<br />
Hear hear good comment. The problem I have though is that some of these anti-blood nutjobs force their dogma on their own minor childen. This in my opinion is where authorities should step in.<br />
Cheers,<br />
Markus</p>
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		<title>By: Stupid Laws = Serious Consequences</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stupid Laws = Serious Consequences</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Oct 2011 14:32:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I understand that it should be illegal to refuse someone his right of a blood transfusion on the grounds of religious beliefs or any beliefs. I must disagree of his petition to push for a stupid law designed to outlaw stupidity and &quot;protect&quot; people against themselves.

People should have the right to refuse blood transfusions for themselves for any reasons even for no reasons. It&#039;s their own body and the definition of freedom is not the freedom to do the right thing but freedom to do stupid things.

The whole concept of dignity and respect is based on the freedom to make your own decisions about yourself.

This law would be worse than the ills that it purports to solve and would set a dangerous precedent to further judiciarise healthcare and criminalize patients.

I must refuse this law even though I am an atheist, not a witness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I understand that it should be illegal to refuse someone his right of a blood transfusion on the grounds of religious beliefs or any beliefs. I must disagree of his petition to push for a stupid law designed to outlaw stupidity and &#8220;protect&#8221; people against themselves.</p>
<p>People should have the right to refuse blood transfusions for themselves for any reasons even for no reasons. It&#8217;s their own body and the definition of freedom is not the freedom to do the right thing but freedom to do stupid things.</p>
<p>The whole concept of dignity and respect is based on the freedom to make your own decisions about yourself.</p>
<p>This law would be worse than the ills that it purports to solve and would set a dangerous precedent to further judiciarise healthcare and criminalize patients.</p>
<p>I must refuse this law even though I am an atheist, not a witness.</p>
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		<title>By: MICHAEL OKENWA</title>
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		<dc:creator>MICHAEL OKENWA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Oct 2011 12:59:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PLEASE MY ANOITED BROTHER HELP ME AND ASK BROTHER JEOL OKOYE AND BROTHER OSITA ONYENO BOTH IN ABUBOR NNEWI ICHI NNEWI WHAT I HAVE DONE TO THEM SINCE 2 MONTHS NOW THAT MADE THEM TO REFUSE TO SEND MY POBLISHER&#039;S RECORD CARD AFTER MY ELDERS IN MY NEW CONGRIGATION HAVE ASK THEM FOR IT PLEASE TELL THEM TO SEND IT TO EZIHITE CONGRIGATION AMORKA PLEASE IAM BEGING THERE IS NO OTHER WAY I KNOW TO REACH YOU IAM BROTHER MICHAEL OKENWA I GOT BAPTISED IN AUGUST 2003</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PLEASE MY ANOITED BROTHER HELP ME AND ASK BROTHER JEOL OKOYE AND BROTHER OSITA ONYENO BOTH IN ABUBOR NNEWI ICHI NNEWI WHAT I HAVE DONE TO THEM SINCE 2 MONTHS NOW THAT MADE THEM TO REFUSE TO SEND MY POBLISHER&#8217;S RECORD CARD AFTER MY ELDERS IN MY NEW CONGRIGATION HAVE ASK THEM FOR IT PLEASE TELL THEM TO SEND IT TO EZIHITE CONGRIGATION AMORKA PLEASE IAM BEGING THERE IS NO OTHER WAY I KNOW TO REACH YOU IAM BROTHER MICHAEL OKENWA I GOT BAPTISED IN AUGUST 2003</p>
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		<title>By: Lilith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lilith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Aug 2011 02:31:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-35389&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Jun  &lt;/a&gt; 
You will be alone forever if you hold on to that belief.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-35389" rel="nofollow">@Jun  </a><br />
You will be alone forever if you hold on to that belief.</p>
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		<title>By: Jun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Aug 2011 22:13:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>News flash mate : Religion is no stranger to causing stress in a family. You&#039;re supposed to favour God over your family, right? Well take your choice. Religion, or your family&#039;s feelings.

Though in his defence, it should always be the patient&#039;s choice to refuse treatment. Unless of course, they&#039;re incapable of either refusing or accepting treatment, in that case, they should get it by default.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>News flash mate : Religion is no stranger to causing stress in a family. You&#8217;re supposed to favour God over your family, right? Well take your choice. Religion, or your family&#8217;s feelings.</p>
<p>Though in his defence, it should always be the patient&#8217;s choice to refuse treatment. Unless of course, they&#8217;re incapable of either refusing or accepting treatment, in that case, they should get it by default.</p>
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		<title>By: miriam</title>
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		<dc:creator>miriam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 May 2010 15:01:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sunt o persoana nascuta si crescuta in religia Martorilor lui Iehova.Personal sunt impotriva multor invataturi ale lor printre care si cea a transfuziilor de sange.Implicarea acestei organizatii religoase in viata individului este mult prea mare si duce la spalare de creier.Ei crd tot ce le spune Turnul de veghere fara sa caute raspunsuri aleatorii.Este foarte trist ce se intampla in numele credintei mai ales acum in zilele noastre.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sunt o persoana nascuta si crescuta in religia Martorilor lui Iehova.Personal sunt impotriva multor invataturi ale lor printre care si cea a transfuziilor de sange.Implicarea acestei organizatii religoase in viata individului este mult prea mare si duce la spalare de creier.Ei crd tot ce le spune Turnul de veghere fara sa caute raspunsuri aleatorii.Este foarte trist ce se intampla in numele credintei mai ales acum in zilele noastre.</p>
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		<title>By: cookie</title>
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		<dc:creator>cookie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 15:06:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People beware.  What affects Jehovah&#039;s Witnesses affects everyone, no matter what religion you are.  

Some stats show that up to 80% of the population do not want a blood transfusion due to the danger of aids, hiv and many other disorders contained in blood.  People should research how many people DIE FROM RECEIVING a blood transfusion before they jump on this band wagon.  People should research the medical ADVANCES that have been made because of the stand Jehovah&#039;s Witnesses take on blood transfusion.  If your surgeon won&#039;t operate without blood, find another surgeon who is more skilled.  A good surgeon doesn&#039;t object to a bloodless surgery.  People should research the options available to them which are safe.  Hip surgery is one of the bloodiest surgeries and can now be done WITHOUT blood transfusions.  Blood transfusions is BIG BUSINESS and BIG MONEY.  People should research how much money is made off of this.   Thank you Jehovah&#039;s Witnesses for taking a stand that has improved everyone&#039;s medical care.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People beware.  What affects Jehovah&#8217;s Witnesses affects everyone, no matter what religion you are.  </p>
<p>Some stats show that up to 80% of the population do not want a blood transfusion due to the danger of aids, hiv and many other disorders contained in blood.  People should research how many people DIE FROM RECEIVING a blood transfusion before they jump on this band wagon.  People should research the medical ADVANCES that have been made because of the stand Jehovah&#8217;s Witnesses take on blood transfusion.  If your surgeon won&#8217;t operate without blood, find another surgeon who is more skilled.  A good surgeon doesn&#8217;t object to a bloodless surgery.  People should research the options available to them which are safe.  Hip surgery is one of the bloodiest surgeries and can now be done WITHOUT blood transfusions.  Blood transfusions is BIG BUSINESS and BIG MONEY.  People should research how much money is made off of this.   Thank you Jehovah&#8217;s Witnesses for taking a stand that has improved everyone&#8217;s medical care.</p>
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		<title>By: J.Lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>J.Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Sep 2009 18:59:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe that an individual has the right to choose a medical proceedure or not freely. However my point is that IF the individual has the actual freedom to choose or not without penalty to themselves then that person may do so. With the Watchtower Society they do not permit a person, especially a child or an invalid who is being cared for by Witnesses to make an actual free choice. I do totally understand your frustrations. My birth-mother in Ontario, who has suffered a near-fatal car-crash, cancer, comas, and now a stroke has been involved with them for several years and must now go for some type of surgery which will unblock her cartaroid artery. She is totally brainwashed by these people. She truely DOES BELIEVE their false medical claims concerning &#039;bloodless surgery&#039; My fear is that as she goes in for surgery next month she will slip into another coma and I might then face life without my only remaining non-estranged relative. I was adopted by my Grandparents as a baby and raised by them. I&#039;m happy she has found peace and God, however after reading Diane Wilson&#039;s book&#039;The awakening of a Jehovah&#039;s Witness&#039; I truly wish she had&#039;nt found it through them. Please DO read this book.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe that an individual has the right to choose a medical proceedure or not freely. However my point is that IF the individual has the actual freedom to choose or not without penalty to themselves then that person may do so. With the Watchtower Society they do not permit a person, especially a child or an invalid who is being cared for by Witnesses to make an actual free choice. I do totally understand your frustrations. My birth-mother in Ontario, who has suffered a near-fatal car-crash, cancer, comas, and now a stroke has been involved with them for several years and must now go for some type of surgery which will unblock her cartaroid artery. She is totally brainwashed by these people. She truely DOES BELIEVE their false medical claims concerning &#8216;bloodless surgery&#8217; My fear is that as she goes in for surgery next month she will slip into another coma and I might then face life without my only remaining non-estranged relative. I was adopted by my Grandparents as a baby and raised by them. I&#8217;m happy she has found peace and God, however after reading Diane Wilson&#8217;s book&#8217;The awakening of a Jehovah&#8217;s Witness&#8217; I truly wish she had&#8217;nt found it through them. Please DO read this book.</p>
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		<title>By: Vix</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 02:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If JWs are truthful they have to admit that their stance on blood is a religious one. They are choosing not to take blood because of the scriptures they have been taught that supposedly support their stand. If anyone is refusing a blood transfusion based purely on the actual risks &amp; benefits of the drug (as it is being used therapeutically) then as long as they are of sound mind and and uncoerced this is absolutely the patients choice.

Can you be uncoerced if you&#039;ve been taught that you will die at the hands of God if you accept a transfusion? They may have removed the automatic disfellowshipping rule but the message remains - you will stand in judgement at Armageddon and lose, so
sacrificing your eternal life.

For many the transfusion offered is to support a low Hb  speeding up recovery from anaemia - patient choice, medically refusal is a reasonable choice.

Referring to my previous comment, I know of a newborn baby who died at a few weeks old due to rhesus incompatibility, did that baby have a choice? A blood transfusion WOULD have saved her life. This brings me back to the JW conditional love that I have been at the receiving end of. If someone put a gun to mine &amp; my daughter&#039;s head I would take the shot for her. If my daughter needed blood to save her life I would sacrifice mine to save hers. I don&#039;t believe that God would kill me for saving the life of my daughter, after all isn&#039;t blood supposed to representative of the sanctity of life - how can it be OK to let them die if life is sacred?

Jehovah can&#039;t be behind the prohibition, otherwise the gradual watering down of the ban would not have happened. How can it be OK to take immunoglobulins, plasma, platelets etc separately but not mixed in the same bag - what is the difference? If the ban was divine - how could Jehovah change his mind? All the changes have happened since 1914 when Jesus supposedly took power (assuming 607 BCE was the starting pt - whole other issue!) Is Jesus such a poor leader that he can&#039;t guide the congregation the right way in the first place? And if the issue is one of Jehovah not enjoying a perfect channel of communication - ie imperfect humans listening - how can any of the bible be trusted? He supposedly managed to get that message across untainted over thousands of yrs..

So can you really choose to throw away life if you are a Christian? This is one very dangerous religion and I&#039;m desperately worried for my family who are as brainwashed as the rest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If JWs are truthful they have to admit that their stance on blood is a religious one. They are choosing not to take blood because of the scriptures they have been taught that supposedly support their stand. If anyone is refusing a blood transfusion based purely on the actual risks &amp; benefits of the drug (as it is being used therapeutically) then as long as they are of sound mind and and uncoerced this is absolutely the patients choice.</p>
<p>Can you be uncoerced if you&#8217;ve been taught that you will die at the hands of God if you accept a transfusion? They may have removed the automatic disfellowshipping rule but the message remains &#8211; you will stand in judgement at Armageddon and lose, so<br />
sacrificing your eternal life.</p>
<p>For many the transfusion offered is to support a low Hb  speeding up recovery from anaemia &#8211; patient choice, medically refusal is a reasonable choice.</p>
<p>Referring to my previous comment, I know of a newborn baby who died at a few weeks old due to rhesus incompatibility, did that baby have a choice? A blood transfusion WOULD have saved her life. This brings me back to the JW conditional love that I have been at the receiving end of. If someone put a gun to mine &amp; my daughter&#8217;s head I would take the shot for her. If my daughter needed blood to save her life I would sacrifice mine to save hers. I don&#8217;t believe that God would kill me for saving the life of my daughter, after all isn&#8217;t blood supposed to representative of the sanctity of life &#8211; how can it be OK to let them die if life is sacred?</p>
<p>Jehovah can&#8217;t be behind the prohibition, otherwise the gradual watering down of the ban would not have happened. How can it be OK to take immunoglobulins, plasma, platelets etc separately but not mixed in the same bag &#8211; what is the difference? If the ban was divine &#8211; how could Jehovah change his mind? All the changes have happened since 1914 when Jesus supposedly took power (assuming 607 BCE was the starting pt &#8211; whole other issue!) Is Jesus such a poor leader that he can&#8217;t guide the congregation the right way in the first place? And if the issue is one of Jehovah not enjoying a perfect channel of communication &#8211; ie imperfect humans listening &#8211; how can any of the bible be trusted? He supposedly managed to get that message across untainted over thousands of yrs..</p>
<p>So can you really choose to throw away life if you are a Christian? This is one very dangerous religion and I&#8217;m desperately worried for my family who are as brainwashed as the rest.</p>
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