Sunt o persoana nascuta si crescuta in religia Martorilor lui Iehova.Personal sunt impotriva multor invataturi ale lor printre care si cea a transfuziilor de sange.Implicarea acestei organizatii religoase in viata individului este mult prea mare si duce la spalare de creier.Ei crd tot ce le spune Turnul de veghere fara sa caute raspunsuri aleatorii.Este foarte trist ce se intampla in numele credintei mai ales acum in zilele noastre.

@cookie Hi cookie la merde, you are a jehovordure. own it asshole.
we all know that’s better to operate without blood transfusions.
standing ovation for having enlightened us.
we are talking about when we have run out of all possible alternatives and in cases of emergency.
in the last two case a jehovordure would like to murder their children.
bye for now my dear innocent blood-thirsty child rapist, mass murderer, planetary carnage advocate shit-devourer of your own god.

People beware. What affects Jehovah’s Witnesses affects everyone, no matter what religion you are.

Some stats show that up to 80% of the population do not want a blood transfusion due to the danger of aids, hiv and many other disorders contained in blood. People should research how many people DIE FROM RECEIVING a blood transfusion before they jump on this band wagon. People should research the medical ADVANCES that have been made because of the stand Jehovah’s Witnesses take on blood transfusion. If your surgeon won’t operate without blood, find another surgeon who is more skilled. A good surgeon doesn’t object to a bloodless surgery. People should research the options available to them which are safe. Hip surgery is one of the bloodiest surgeries and can now be done WITHOUT blood transfusions. Blood transfusions is BIG BUSINESS and BIG MONEY. People should research how much money is made off of this. Thank you Jehovah’s Witnesses for taking a stand that has improved everyone’s medical care.

I believe that an individual has the right to choose a medical proceedure or not freely. However my point is that IF the individual has the actual freedom to choose or not without penalty to themselves then that person may do so. With the Watchtower Society they do not permit a person, especially a child or an invalid who is being cared for by Witnesses to make an actual free choice. I do totally understand your frustrations. My birth-mother in Ontario, who has suffered a near-fatal car-crash, cancer, comas, and now a stroke has been involved with them for several years and must now go for some type of surgery which will unblock her cartaroid artery. She is totally brainwashed by these people. She truely DOES BELIEVE their false medical claims concerning ‘bloodless surgery’ My fear is that as she goes in for surgery next month she will slip into another coma and I might then face life without my only remaining non-estranged relative. I was adopted by my Grandparents as a baby and raised by them. I’m happy she has found peace and God, however after reading Diane Wilson’s book’The awakening of a Jehovah’s Witness’ I truly wish she had’nt found it through them. Please DO read this book.

If JWs are truthful they have to admit that their stance on blood is a religious one. They are choosing not to take blood because of the scriptures they have been taught that supposedly support their stand. If anyone is refusing a blood transfusion based purely on the actual risks & benefits of the drug (as it is being used therapeutically) then as long as they are of sound mind and and uncoerced this is absolutely the patients choice.

Can you be uncoerced if you’ve been taught that you will die at the hands of God if you accept a transfusion? They may have removed the automatic disfellowshipping rule but the message remains – you will stand in judgement at Armageddon and lose, so
sacrificing your eternal life.

For many the transfusion offered is to support a low Hb speeding up recovery from anaemia – patient choice, medically refusal is a reasonable choice.

Referring to my previous comment, I know of a newborn baby who died at a few weeks old due to rhesus incompatibility, did that baby have a choice? A blood transfusion WOULD have saved her life. This brings me back to the JW conditional love that I have been at the receiving end of. If someone put a gun to mine & my daughter’s head I would take the shot for her. If my daughter needed blood to save her life I would sacrifice mine to save hers. I don’t believe that God would kill me for saving the life of my daughter, after all isn’t blood supposed to representative of the sanctity of life – how can it be OK to let them die if life is sacred?

Jehovah can’t be behind the prohibition, otherwise the gradual watering down of the ban would not have happened. How can it be OK to take immunoglobulins, plasma, platelets etc separately but not mixed in the same bag – what is the difference? If the ban was divine – how could Jehovah change his mind? All the changes have happened since 1914 when Jesus supposedly took power (assuming 607 BCE was the starting pt – whole other issue!) Is Jesus such a poor leader that he can’t guide the congregation the right way in the first place? And if the issue is one of Jehovah not enjoying a perfect channel of communication – ie imperfect humans listening – how can any of the bible be trusted? He supposedly managed to get that message across untainted over thousands of yrs..

So can you really choose to throw away life if you are a Christian? This is one very dangerous religion and I’m desperately worried for my family who are as brainwashed as the rest.

i think it should be the patients choice

Hi Ray,

Actually they can – its OK to lie if the person doesn’t have the right to that information aka will use it to expose any jw representative as a liar(see elder lies in court), and from personal experience its fine if you’re an elder & questioned about pretty much anything that you don’t want to admit to. Paedolhilia may be reasonably considered by the educated as fornication – and that’s fine too as long as the JW name is kept out of the papers.

And you are right, can you imagine the law suits if the blood prohibition was lifted altogether, practically murder of all the people who were threatened with losing their life at armageddon if they took a transfusion so they refused so they wouldn’t lose their eternal life and lost this one. Already the propaganda machine is in motion – newer witnesses apparently believe that accepting blood transfusions has always been a conscience matter. This is a master WT technique and it constantly amazes me how it continues to work. For all jws out there try comparing what is written in any jw literature with the questions at the bottom of the paragraph & listen to the answers these provoke. What is verbally indoctrinated is also accepted worldwide as ‘truth’ and so cannot be just the readers mis-interpretation of what they wrote. It does remove any liability form the society though should they need to retract anything later on – they never committed anything to paper in the first place. This is a fairly new strategy, learned the hard way and saves them having make sure no older copies of any magazines etc are available, not so easy in the internet age.

I’d hate to be in any JW shoes if armageddon does ever strike, the ‘I didn’t know’ defence is going to be hard to prove..

Please think about this:

If the WTS accepts “small parts of blood” can JW now accept small parts of honesty and samll parts of fornication?
The question shows how ridiculus the subject is, it´s only not to have legal problems, after a time they recognized vaccinations and transplants, but can´t accept blood, only to keep their money, they don´t care any more about nice people that obey going door to door, putting first thei own interest.
Just like the reigious sistem that killed Jesus.

Saludos, de Chile

Sonny are you serious?

You are in for a huge shock.

Here’s the society’s tactics -
1 – take a huge issue like abstaining from blood/ generation explanation. write things like..”what would any true christian do in this situation? that way at the watchtower all the answers are geared to telling you what not to do without the society actually writing it down.
2 – Write a new thought about it in an obscure place.
3 – Don’t mention it in any articles/talks/assemblies for a couple of years or more – 4 is best.
4 – wait for an issue to rise
5 – point out that the society never said xyz… then direct them to the obscure article
6 – lots of people will be new since the article was written and like Sonny will be completely fooled. Those that aren’t will be indoctrinated enough to think that they just understood it incorrectly and will be happy to have their understanding corrected.
7 – Mission complete – society comes up smelling of roses all sheep blissfully unaware.

The society most certainly has disfellowshipped many people for taking a blood transfusion. Read up on their problems in Hungary, this provoked a u turn.

Hi Michelle,
You are right, making a decision for someone that results in their death is a huge responsibility.

I know of a baby that died at 8 weeks old due to rhesus incompatibility. She died of anaemia with a blood count of 1.2, there is absolutely no doubt that her life would have been saved by a blood transfusion, or several.
When I was in my teens taking anti D was forbidden because it was a blood product, now that is OK. its not OK for the hundreds of babies that died 20 yrs ago because the society hadn’t changed their mind yet. Last I heard stillbirths weren’t entitled to a resurrection. Who is responsible for their deaths?

He gave us life to value and enjoy. JW’s are the only group who merrily throw away life on a questionable interpretation, no other scholars i know agree. Alot of Paul’s other ‘commandments’ are not followed to the same degree unless times have changed and now women are not permitted to speak in the cong, and if they want to know anything (heaven forbid they may know more than the men) they should ask their own husbands at home. And before you hail the old testament law to spill animal blood on the floor before eating it – that law was nailed to the stake & if you want to reinstate you’re gonna have to start stoning adulterers and be as Godly as the lawmakers in Iran. But then I guess they may interpret the world’s outrage as persecution for their righteous stand too.

You sound like an intelligent woman, how terrible would it be if Jehovah never meant JWs to sacrifice their children in his name?