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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Apr 2010 19:09:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-9460&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@crista &lt;/a&gt; 

You&#039;re a moron.  Do you think this is still 1920?  We can screen blood to make sure its clean and disease free.  

Religion is to be blamed because this foolish woman and her daughter refused blood transfusions for RELIGIOUS REASONS.  Did you even read about the case?  They specifically state that their particular faith is why they refused the transfusions.</description>
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<p>You&#8217;re a moron.  Do you think this is still 1920?  We can screen blood to make sure its clean and disease free.  </p>
<p>Religion is to be blamed because this foolish woman and her daughter refused blood transfusions for RELIGIOUS REASONS.  Did you even read about the case?  They specifically state that their particular faith is why they refused the transfusions.</p>
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		<title>By: crista</title>
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		<dc:creator>crista</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 13:29:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>why do you blame a religon?, How do you know that that blood you took from someone was not infected? blood carries infections HIV,SEX DISEASE... Would you want your daughter to have that, saline soloution works faster then blood, I&#039;m not a witness but I have common sense, that accepting blood that might be tainted would risk my life worse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why do you blame a religon?, How do you know that that blood you took from someone was not infected? blood carries infections HIV,SEX DISEASE&#8230; Would you want your daughter to have that, saline soloution works faster then blood, I&#8217;m not a witness but I have common sense, that accepting blood that might be tainted would risk my life worse.</p>
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		<title>By: Janet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 17:42:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is ROT Violet....&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-983&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Violet  &lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Janet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 17:41:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is rot Violet....</description>
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		<title>By: Hans</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 14:08:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What do the Scriptures really tell us in question of blood and is blood more sacred, in the eyes of God, than the life itself?

The Watchtower Society is a man created organisation that have built a religious house without a parapet, Deuteronomy 22:8 and they have sent thousands and other thousands of spiritual brothers, sisters and their children into a premature death and is therefore a blood guilty Organisation carrying at much bloodguilt, as described in &quot;Insight in the Scriptures&quot; under the item &quot;Bloodguilt&quot;.

They have furthermore placed themselves at Moses chair, by playing masters over others faith, by mind controlling of their members to believe that they speak with the mouth of God, even that they have elected themselves by the principles of majority vote, in opposition to what comes forth in 1 Peter 5:3 and 1 Corinthians 1:24 by their doctrines with sanctions.

If their members don&#039;t accept all their changing teachings, called &quot;NEW LIGHT&quot;, which has coursed thousands of adult and children’s premature death, that vaccinations was the act of Satan, Organ transplantations cannibalism and maked the blood more sacred than the life itself, they will be disfellowshipped and shunned, totally socially isolated and cut of from their family, former and present friends which still are members of the Society.

If we look in the Scriptures, the Jews was given a higher standard that the surrounding nations, compared with Genesis 9:4, but it was possible for a Jew and a resident Alien, in an emergency situation, to eat all the blood in a carcass or by a wild beast torn animal. Leviticus 15:15, to sustain life. Only a ceremonial bath before evening and the matter was settled between God and the Society.

It was not the blood that was sacred but the life itself and the reason for that the blood has to be destroyed was when a kill has taken place, not more or less. Leviticus 17:13.

The blood is a metaphor for life, since the act of covering the blood with dust, was to show respect for the life and so to speak, give the life back to God. Se also John 6:52-56.

In a donor situation no life has been taken and the donor gives a little part of his /hers &quot;life&quot; in accordance to what Jesus said in John 15:13 and therefore there is nothing wrong in using donor or own blood in an emergency situation where a transfusion is the last chance to sustain the life, a question of saving the most scared for God and humans the life itself.

The latest &quot;New Light&quot; from the Watchtower Society in Awake and KM from November in 2006, announce acceptance of storing and use of thousands of tons of killed animals’ blood, in form of Hemopure from www.biopure.com.

They give members the right to use Hemopure, 97% of the red blood cells in form of the haemoglobin. The 3 % rest of the red blood cells are the donuts, the shield that holds it together and is not banned, but if a member take the 97 % haemoglobin and the 3 % donuts, which makes the red blood cells in one injection, the person will be automatically be disfellowshipped, but taking the haemoglobin in one injection and the 3 % donut in another, the person will be in good standing.

The men behind the Watchtower Society are sacrificing their members life like those described in Jeremiah 7:31 and their interpretation and manipulation of the Scriptures are very clear when they get use of Act 15:20, 29, where it comes forth to abstain from blood and meat offered to idols, which was not a new law for the Christians but a recommendation not to harm another persons conscience, like Paul he stated in 1 Corinthians 8:7-13.

If abstain from blood was and means a totally no no, how does it then come that Saul’s men wasn’t killed when they eat all the blood in the meat as described in 1 Samuel 14:32? Since it was an emergency situation and Paul stated in 1 Corinthians 8:7-13 that an Idol was nothing and it was possible to eat meat offered to Idols, but being responsible for that another person stumble, that was the background and issue in question abstain from blood, strangled animals and meat offered to Idols, not that blood, strangled animals and meat offered to Idols was an absolute, a no no, in question of a life and death situation. Se Leviticus 17:15.

A wild beats often strangle its pray to death, but it was possible for a Jew and an Alien to eat the dead animal with all its blood in, since it must have been in an emergency situation, who likes to eat a carcass in a normal life situation with access enough food to eat?

Paul get use of the same word as James in Act 15:20:29 where the men behind the Watchtower Society translate the same Greek word different, to get support for their blood doctrine and through that avoid that Paul should be or look like an apostate, by accepting the eating of meat offered to Idols.

It is so sad to see how people have followed political and religious leaders doctrines through the whole world history, which has caused millions of premature dead adult and children’s premature death, but if we like to be Christians and follow in Christ Jesus footsteps and accept that the scriptures has its origin from God, it will be necessary to read and act in accordance to what comes forth in Psalm 146:3-5 and Galatians 6:5 and nobody can use as an excuse, I was to do so and so, that will not suffice, since everyone has to carry his /hers own burden and following political or religious leaders, which fit in to what Jesus stated in John 8:44, will nor be good examples to follow.

The question everyone has to ask themselves is, do I put my own and bellowed ones lives in religious leaders hands, those who have falsely predicted Armageddon in Jehovah’s name among others, in 1917, 1925, 1975 and now have postponed it to be 20XX, which the Scriptures clearly describe as false prophets in Deuteronomy 18:20-22 and manipulate with the Scriptures to get support for their doctrines, like those described in Jeremiah 8:8 and Revelation 22:18,19 or do I wish to follow the words of Peter in John 6:67-69 and go to Christ Jesus instead of a man created organisation, which carries at much bloodguilt, by following the word of Paul in Romans 13:8?

Se also wwww.ajwrb.org</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What do the Scriptures really tell us in question of blood and is blood more sacred, in the eyes of God, than the life itself?</p>
<p>The Watchtower Society is a man created organisation that have built a religious house without a parapet, Deuteronomy 22:8 and they have sent thousands and other thousands of spiritual brothers, sisters and their children into a premature death and is therefore a blood guilty Organisation carrying at much bloodguilt, as described in &#8220;Insight in the Scriptures&#8221; under the item &#8220;Bloodguilt&#8221;.</p>
<p>They have furthermore placed themselves at Moses chair, by playing masters over others faith, by mind controlling of their members to believe that they speak with the mouth of God, even that they have elected themselves by the principles of majority vote, in opposition to what comes forth in 1 Peter 5:3 and 1 Corinthians 1:24 by their doctrines with sanctions.</p>
<p>If their members don&#8217;t accept all their changing teachings, called &#8220;NEW LIGHT&#8221;, which has coursed thousands of adult and children’s premature death, that vaccinations was the act of Satan, Organ transplantations cannibalism and maked the blood more sacred than the life itself, they will be disfellowshipped and shunned, totally socially isolated and cut of from their family, former and present friends which still are members of the Society.</p>
<p>If we look in the Scriptures, the Jews was given a higher standard that the surrounding nations, compared with Genesis 9:4, but it was possible for a Jew and a resident Alien, in an emergency situation, to eat all the blood in a carcass or by a wild beast torn animal. Leviticus 15:15, to sustain life. Only a ceremonial bath before evening and the matter was settled between God and the Society.</p>
<p>It was not the blood that was sacred but the life itself and the reason for that the blood has to be destroyed was when a kill has taken place, not more or less. Leviticus 17:13.</p>
<p>The blood is a metaphor for life, since the act of covering the blood with dust, was to show respect for the life and so to speak, give the life back to God. Se also John 6:52-56.</p>
<p>In a donor situation no life has been taken and the donor gives a little part of his /hers &#8220;life&#8221; in accordance to what Jesus said in John 15:13 and therefore there is nothing wrong in using donor or own blood in an emergency situation where a transfusion is the last chance to sustain the life, a question of saving the most scared for God and humans the life itself.</p>
<p>The latest &#8220;New Light&#8221; from the Watchtower Society in Awake and KM from November in 2006, announce acceptance of storing and use of thousands of tons of killed animals’ blood, in form of Hemopure from <a href="http://www.biopure.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.biopure.com</a>.</p>
<p>They give members the right to use Hemopure, 97% of the red blood cells in form of the haemoglobin. The 3 % rest of the red blood cells are the donuts, the shield that holds it together and is not banned, but if a member take the 97 % haemoglobin and the 3 % donuts, which makes the red blood cells in one injection, the person will be automatically be disfellowshipped, but taking the haemoglobin in one injection and the 3 % donut in another, the person will be in good standing.</p>
<p>The men behind the Watchtower Society are sacrificing their members life like those described in Jeremiah 7:31 and their interpretation and manipulation of the Scriptures are very clear when they get use of Act 15:20, 29, where it comes forth to abstain from blood and meat offered to idols, which was not a new law for the Christians but a recommendation not to harm another persons conscience, like Paul he stated in 1 Corinthians 8:7-13.</p>
<p>If abstain from blood was and means a totally no no, how does it then come that Saul’s men wasn’t killed when they eat all the blood in the meat as described in 1 Samuel 14:32? Since it was an emergency situation and Paul stated in 1 Corinthians 8:7-13 that an Idol was nothing and it was possible to eat meat offered to Idols, but being responsible for that another person stumble, that was the background and issue in question abstain from blood, strangled animals and meat offered to Idols, not that blood, strangled animals and meat offered to Idols was an absolute, a no no, in question of a life and death situation. Se Leviticus 17:15.</p>
<p>A wild beats often strangle its pray to death, but it was possible for a Jew and an Alien to eat the dead animal with all its blood in, since it must have been in an emergency situation, who likes to eat a carcass in a normal life situation with access enough food to eat?</p>
<p>Paul get use of the same word as James in Act 15:20:29 where the men behind the Watchtower Society translate the same Greek word different, to get support for their blood doctrine and through that avoid that Paul should be or look like an apostate, by accepting the eating of meat offered to Idols.</p>
<p>It is so sad to see how people have followed political and religious leaders doctrines through the whole world history, which has caused millions of premature dead adult and children’s premature death, but if we like to be Christians and follow in Christ Jesus footsteps and accept that the scriptures has its origin from God, it will be necessary to read and act in accordance to what comes forth in Psalm 146:3-5 and Galatians 6:5 and nobody can use as an excuse, I was to do so and so, that will not suffice, since everyone has to carry his /hers own burden and following political or religious leaders, which fit in to what Jesus stated in John 8:44, will nor be good examples to follow.</p>
<p>The question everyone has to ask themselves is, do I put my own and bellowed ones lives in religious leaders hands, those who have falsely predicted Armageddon in Jehovah’s name among others, in 1917, 1925, 1975 and now have postponed it to be 20XX, which the Scriptures clearly describe as false prophets in Deuteronomy 18:20-22 and manipulate with the Scriptures to get support for their doctrines, like those described in Jeremiah 8:8 and Revelation 22:18,19 or do I wish to follow the words of Peter in John 6:67-69 and go to Christ Jesus instead of a man created organisation, which carries at much bloodguilt, by following the word of Paul in Romans 13:8?</p>
<p>Se also wwww.ajwrb.org</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2007 11:07:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had friend who died because witnesses do not accept blood. Later the doctors said she would have survived if her mother had allowed to give her blood.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had friend who died because witnesses do not accept blood. Later the doctors said she would have survived if her mother had allowed to give her blood.</p>
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		<title>By: fred</title>
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		<dc:creator>fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2007 01:20:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had a friend who took blood, got a disease and died from it. Later, the doctors said he would have survived if he didn&#039;t take the blood. Ironic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a friend who took blood, got a disease and died from it. Later, the doctors said he would have survived if he didn&#8217;t take the blood. Ironic.</p>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
		<link>http://www.watchtowerinformationservice.org/blood-medical-issues/128/comment-page-1/#comment-997</link>
		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2007 01:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even people who are not JW&#039;s pronounce it as Jehovah. It has been confirmed to be the English way we best know how to say God&#039;s name.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even people who are not JW&#8217;s pronounce it as Jehovah. It has been confirmed to be the English way we best know how to say God&#8217;s name.</p>
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		<title>By: Facts without Bias</title>
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		<dc:creator>Facts without Bias</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2007 23:30:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;You see without bias the truth is:

Within the circulatory system blood is either blue or green. This means blood turns red when the hemoglobin on the erythrocytes (red blood cells) become covered with oxygen in the atmosphere.
The problem is everything in the air gets sucked into it to.

Like the Oreck filtration system commercials show there’s alot of contaminants (Black stuff) in the air. These contaminants include the diseases accumlated in hospitals (when drawn in hospitals). It is a well known fact that more people get sick in the hopital than anywhere else. There is currently no way to avoid the contamination of blood.

Also Blood like anything else foreign to the body, has the risk of rejection, or atleast causes the body more difficulty in healing itself due to having to adapt to the foreign material. [During the beginning of the AIDS pandemic in the 1980’s over 30,000 hemophiliacs aquired the disease from tainted Plasma which is a component of blood. Plasma screening was the most thorough blood screening system at that time]

Blood conservation techniques have the same mortality rate as using blood in surgery. The major difference is the lack of knowledge in these techniques and the fact that healing time is much shorter in blood conservation.

Another difference would be the use of electrocauterization (Electrcally closing cuts or surgical openings in the body). This almost imediately seals the openings without waiting for stitches to heal.

The truth is the bible used terms such as clean and unclean or holy and unholy to describe thngs that we now are beginning to understand as aseptic/septic (sannitary, unsanitary) or other definitions according to their context. This also applies to the food that we eat according the biblical laws, but those laws are no longer practiced with the admittance of gentiles.

Wether the interpretation of the scriptures are argued one way or another the scientific facts would still exist even with out the Jehovah’s witnesses.&quot;

The sad truth is this girl still died, but her father stole her free will before she died.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You see without bias the truth is:</p>
<p>Within the circulatory system blood is either blue or green. This means blood turns red when the hemoglobin on the erythrocytes (red blood cells) become covered with oxygen in the atmosphere.<br />
The problem is everything in the air gets sucked into it to.</p>
<p>Like the Oreck filtration system commercials show there’s alot of contaminants (Black stuff) in the air. These contaminants include the diseases accumlated in hospitals (when drawn in hospitals). It is a well known fact that more people get sick in the hopital than anywhere else. There is currently no way to avoid the contamination of blood.</p>
<p>Also Blood like anything else foreign to the body, has the risk of rejection, or atleast causes the body more difficulty in healing itself due to having to adapt to the foreign material. [During the beginning of the AIDS pandemic in the 1980’s over 30,000 hemophiliacs aquired the disease from tainted Plasma which is a component of blood. Plasma screening was the most thorough blood screening system at that time]</p>
<p>Blood conservation techniques have the same mortality rate as using blood in surgery. The major difference is the lack of knowledge in these techniques and the fact that healing time is much shorter in blood conservation.</p>
<p>Another difference would be the use of electrocauterization (Electrcally closing cuts or surgical openings in the body). This almost imediately seals the openings without waiting for stitches to heal.</p>
<p>The truth is the bible used terms such as clean and unclean or holy and unholy to describe thngs that we now are beginning to understand as aseptic/septic (sannitary, unsanitary) or other definitions according to their context. This also applies to the food that we eat according the biblical laws, but those laws are no longer practiced with the admittance of gentiles.</p>
<p>Wether the interpretation of the scriptures are argued one way or another the scientific facts would still exist even with out the Jehovah’s witnesses.&#8221;</p>
<p>The sad truth is this girl still died, but her father stole her free will before she died.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Feb 2007 13:54:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for clarifying this, Markus

Then the whole of the blood doctrine is within itself inconsistent:

Apart from the obvious fact that none of the scripture they quote has anything to say about blood transfusions,  then even if we accept their position for a moment, it makes no logical sense:

A JW having received a blood transfusion as a result of a court order has no part in that decision, so cannot possibly be responsible; if we say such a person was responsible, then we would have to say, by the same logic, that a woman having been raped has committed fornication or adultery.

Also, if that is their position, it is ok for a JW doctor to give a blood transfusion to a non-JW, I take it?

Also, the odd thing they say is, that a WHOLE blood transfusion is a sin, but a transfusion of any part is not. So, if they receive one part after the other, rather than all of it at once, that&#039;s ok?

Most importantly, if a blood transfusion before &quot;conversion&quot; (perversion would be a better word I think) can be &quot;forgiven&quot;, why can&#039;t it be same afterwards?

Also, at the risk of sounding vulgar, have you very thought why it is that your own faeces is brown in colour? Well, you guessed it: Humans, like all mammals, &quot;recycle&quot; their dead blood cells by passing them through the digestive system... So all of us &quot;eat&quot; our own blood each day, every day, as long as we live...

I think what has happened here is quite simple: The WTS got themselves into a pickle by first declaring the &quot;blood doctrine&quot; and then discovering afterwards that that was perhaps not quite right; but given the consequences that this false teaching had up to then, it would be very difficult to retract because by then people have died as a result of it. (Law suits spring to mind...)

So they did a bit of back-peddling and now have a wholly inconsistent doctrine as a result.

This clearly makes the point made here several times over: Being a religious teacher is a dangerous business, and it is better to admit not having the answer than getting it wrong. Funnily enough, Charles Taze Russell of all people said exactly that. I wonder why the JW did not listen to him?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for clarifying this, Markus</p>
<p>Then the whole of the blood doctrine is within itself inconsistent:</p>
<p>Apart from the obvious fact that none of the scripture they quote has anything to say about blood transfusions,  then even if we accept their position for a moment, it makes no logical sense:</p>
<p>A JW having received a blood transfusion as a result of a court order has no part in that decision, so cannot possibly be responsible; if we say such a person was responsible, then we would have to say, by the same logic, that a woman having been raped has committed fornication or adultery.</p>
<p>Also, if that is their position, it is ok for a JW doctor to give a blood transfusion to a non-JW, I take it?</p>
<p>Also, the odd thing they say is, that a WHOLE blood transfusion is a sin, but a transfusion of any part is not. So, if they receive one part after the other, rather than all of it at once, that&#8217;s ok?</p>
<p>Most importantly, if a blood transfusion before &#8220;conversion&#8221; (perversion would be a better word I think) can be &#8220;forgiven&#8221;, why can&#8217;t it be same afterwards?</p>
<p>Also, at the risk of sounding vulgar, have you very thought why it is that your own faeces is brown in colour? Well, you guessed it: Humans, like all mammals, &#8220;recycle&#8221; their dead blood cells by passing them through the digestive system&#8230; So all of us &#8220;eat&#8221; our own blood each day, every day, as long as we live&#8230;</p>
<p>I think what has happened here is quite simple: The WTS got themselves into a pickle by first declaring the &#8220;blood doctrine&#8221; and then discovering afterwards that that was perhaps not quite right; but given the consequences that this false teaching had up to then, it would be very difficult to retract because by then people have died as a result of it. (Law suits spring to mind&#8230;)</p>
<p>So they did a bit of back-peddling and now have a wholly inconsistent doctrine as a result.</p>
<p>This clearly makes the point made here several times over: Being a religious teacher is a dangerous business, and it is better to admit not having the answer than getting it wrong. Funnily enough, Charles Taze Russell of all people said exactly that. I wonder why the JW did not listen to him?</p>
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